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the smoke radio for the masses headline

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edition july 8 1947

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disc has been found and is now in

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the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly

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our differences worldwide

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would vanish

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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outside this world

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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network and kgra the global radio

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i need your help to get to the year

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you are listening to fade to black with

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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good evening

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today's tuesday

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september 11th

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257 days into the new year just 108 days

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left we are live from a bunker

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somewhere in beautiful downtown burbank

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california and i would like to welcome

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everybody listening all around the world

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all across the united states

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hither and tether to and fro back and

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changer network and kgra the

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planet i'm your host jimmy church what

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is cracking everybody how you doing

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all right

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we have very special guests with us

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because this is our september 11th 9 11

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and our guest is justin deschamps

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that's right we're going to discuss

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every angle every aspect of what

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happened back in 2001 we're going to do

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it all tonight on the show

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maybe we'll get some answers

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we're going to put everything on the

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table tomorrow night

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kelly

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sullivan walden is here

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the dream expert right tomorrow night

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we're going to discuss your dreams and

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we are also going to take your phone

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calls so that's tomorrow night

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thursday is another fader night with

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open lines all night long john rappaport

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and his no more fake newsroom live

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and followed by like you know open lines

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all night long and rapaport

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is on the east coast he is in the line

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of fire with hurricane florence

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but apparently is at high ground

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so there you go last week he was on

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this week he is really

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on special assignment but he says he's

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all right i don't know what that means

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but i tried to get more information out

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but he says he's good he's good for the

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all right and not to disclose where he

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so uh that's thursday night oh yeah you

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say somebody came up to me at a

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and he said it's just it's just so much

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fun and and you're always there and i am

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and you can come and find me on social

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media you can find me over at on stellar

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and hashtag f2bq is where you can post

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your questions throughout the show and i

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active i get that so post everything

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that you need for me to see in hashtag

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all right so rappaport is in the swamp i

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said he's near

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he's got to be man he's gotta he's gotta

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he's gotta you know keep your enemies

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close right that's that's what you do

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that's what you do all right you can

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email throughout the show

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jimmy

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tonight

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so i'm going to uh get straight to it

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breaking news today

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a fast radio burst from a dwarf galaxy

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three billion light years away is

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the unknown object is called the

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repeater also known as frb

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and it is the only known frb fast radio

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burst to have emitted

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multiple bursts

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now here's a direct quote from the press

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release today

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quote frb's from 1 2 1 102 originate in

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a dwarf galaxy 3 billion light years

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from earth but the nature of the object

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emitting them is unknown there are many

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theories including that they could be

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the signatures of technology developed

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by extraterrestrial intelligent life

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the results of the team's research were

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published in the astrophysical journal

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yesterday monday september 10th

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jerry

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and the breakthrough listen team

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observed 121 102 for a total of five

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collecting 400 terabytes of data

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all of which took place

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developed advanced machine learning

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algorithms to further examine the data

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is some really big breaking news

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check this out

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i was sent this today

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the national solar observatory in

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arizona

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was

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evacuated by the fbi

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and the nearby post office was also

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the place was roped off and no word was

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given as to why this was done the local

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sheriff has no idea why the fbi rolled

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in and took over

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my contact who sent me this information

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being an avid solar observer had a few

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phone numbers and started to call the

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text at the observatory he finally got a

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hold of two of them and they told him

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that it was a security risk area and

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that they were told to leave and don't

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come back until they were told to

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now why would there be a security risk

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a spokesman for the otero county

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confirmed it rod spurgeon a spokesman

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said and i'm quoting

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what we're told is that they've

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allowed in or out since and we have no

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new information as of today

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today is tuesday

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think about that

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crazy

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have anything to do with these frbs i

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it's crazy crazy i'm going to stay on

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top of the story though and i do have

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somebody in the area i've got a source

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so we will see don't forget to subscribe

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let's get this show cracking happy

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birthday to today

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that's right harry connick jr today is

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51. if he's 51 today how old was he when

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he did independence day that's 1994.

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let's do the math right wow

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wow he was like 35

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today he is 51.

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well otd on this day in history

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2001

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at 8 45 a.m

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on a clear tuesday morning an american

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airlines boeing 767 loaded with 20 000

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gallons of jet fuel

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crashes into the north tower of the

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world trade center in new york city

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18 minutes later a second boeing 767

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united airlines flight 175 peered out of

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the sky turned sharply towards the world

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trade center and sliced into the south

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tower at about the 60th floor

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american airlines flight 77 circled

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downtown washington and slammed into the

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west side of the pentagon military

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headquarters at 9 45 a.m

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less than 15 minutes later the south

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tower of the world trade center

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collapsed

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hijacked united flight 93 crashed into

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rural field in western pennsylvania

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20 minutes later at 10 30 a.m the other

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trade center tower fell

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on this day in 2001 fader fact

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only six people in the world trade

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center towers at the time of their

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collapse

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tonight

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we have very special guests it is our

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september 11th

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9 11 special event and our guest tonight

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is justin deschamps we're going to

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discuss every angle of what happened

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that day

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all of the theories all of the ideas and

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everything is going to be put onto the

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table tomorrow night kelly sullivan

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walden is joining the show

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and we are going to discuss your dreams

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and take your phone calls all night long

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thursday is another fader night with

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open lines john rappaport is going to be

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here

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reporting live

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from the hurricane on the east coast

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followed by open lines all night long

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all right now

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i

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sleep

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right if there's nothing distracting me

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from my brain i'm serious my mind

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i don't have that in the background

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my mind goes all over the place and i'll

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stay awake

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and so if i have something on

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i can concentrate on that and it'll pull

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me in that direction i can fall asleep

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back in the day

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i kept the tv on all night i have my own

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reasons for that and you know that but

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i can't do it today because the tv that

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rita and i have in the bedroom is

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ginormous and it's like having the sun

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in your face right well it's great to

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watch but you can't fall asleep to it

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because it's you know it's it's it's

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it's huge

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but back on

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september 11 2001

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that tv was on all night

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and i remember

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uh

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and

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again that a small plane had crashed

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into the top of the world trade center

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and this was you know this was in my

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dream

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and i woke up

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and i looked down at the foot of the bed

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you know rubbing my eyes and i saw the

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smoke coming

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from the top of the world trade center

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right and i don't know what was on the

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today show or you know something

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something was on

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and

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well that morning i did what

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the rest of america in the world did

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i watched the events unfold in what

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seemed like rapid fire succession and it

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didn't stop

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at around noon

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uh pacific time

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i got in my car

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and headed to my office in santa monica

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and for some reason i didn't take the

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405 freeway but instead

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i went over the hill i took benedict

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canyon and i stopped in west hollywood

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and then uh took santa monica boulevard

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through beverly hills heading west into

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santa monica

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and i only bring this up because

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i remember

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the beverly hills courthouse

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was already surrounded by national guard

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troops as i drove by

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and i found myself in this

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weird

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strange

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surreal

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dream place

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it was just bizarro

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this strange world only happened to me

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once before and

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it was the morning of the northridge

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earthquake back in january 1994

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and yes the national guard was on every

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corner of my neighborhood then too you

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know and it's a very strange thing to

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see

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well

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when this kind of trauma hits you and

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takes you out of your normal daily

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existence

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something else kicks in

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your brain is is trying to make sense of

394
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it all but it can't

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everything around you just looks

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different

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and i remember

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i remember just sitting and watching the

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24-hour coverage on tv day after day

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not getting any sleep and and nothing

401
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around me looked the same not my home

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my car my neighborhood the drive to work

403
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everything changed right it was like the

404
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colors had changed and

405
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the mood in my mind

406
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when events like this

407
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you know

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happen the sudden

409
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and intense life-changing events

410
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you know they change you

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and it's your brain trying to adapt

412
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you know i'm making a guess here but

413
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it's traumatic

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and i don't know if anything will happen

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again in my lifetime that will cause

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that strange dreamscape

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thing to flood my senses

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you know that

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that breaking news thing that flashes

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across the tv

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right and your heart skips a beat

422
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or the you know we interrupt this

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program

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you know when that happens on the radio

425
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and your stomach just twists up in a

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knot

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you know or the ground

428
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yeah it's a fear

429
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the funny thing is

430
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we never know when these events

431
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may happen and we just can't predict the

432
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future but i know this i don't want

433
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ever

434
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anyone to have the experience

435
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again

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i don't

437
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how many hurricanes last year think

438
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about that for a second

439
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how many fires countless fires that have

440
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torn across this country you know and

441
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people going through this trauma

442
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mass shootings las vegas right

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think about that

444
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these are life-changing events and right

445
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now we have hurricane florence and

446
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bearing down on the east coast of the us

447
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and as i speak to you right now

448
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there are over a million people

449
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evacuating and going through that same

450
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so today

451
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on this september 11th we're going to be

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discussing what happened back in 2001

453
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but if you never went through a natural

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disaster an earthquake or a war

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you probably did experience 911 and you

456
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know what it's like

457
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to have your world change

458
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during the immediate aftermath

459
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in the years since 9 11

460
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something just didn't sit right with me

461
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and yes i read all of the conspiracy

462
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stuff and i watched the documentaries

463
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lose change

464
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and although they all can't be right one

465
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thing is for sure

466
00:20:45,430 --> 00:20:43,360
we have not been told the truth about

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what happened

468
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two things that i just can't shake

469
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there are two well there's many but

470
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there's two

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first

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how is that

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possible i don't know if any of you

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uh visited

475
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the world trade centers uh back when

476
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they were standing i did a few times

477
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and i did go to the top once

478
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but it seemed that every time i went to

479
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new york and uh i was with friends we

480
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would always go to the world trade we

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would do everything you know go to you

482
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know but the world trade center was one

483
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of those places where you'd you went

484
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down there and just looked at these

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buildings you know and you could walk

486
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into the lobby and

487
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and the the feeling of the might and the

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power and the strength

489
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it's overwhelming because you just look

490
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up and they are so big and you get the

491
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same feeling at

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you know uh

493
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the sears tower right in chicago and for

494
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me also growing up the sears tower and

495
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the john hancock building and so when

496
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you're in new york and you're looking at

497
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these ginormous buildings that are

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everywhere the world trade centers were

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just

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unbelievably

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big

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just strong and tall

503
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and i still don't know

504
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how they

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fell

506
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that part i just can't figure out in my

507
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own mind

508
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and the second thing that i can't shake

509
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is that our government knew about

510
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this is a very important point here

511
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because the second point is the biggest

512
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conspiracy of them all and it gets lost

513
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in all of the noise around 9 11.

514
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if anyone at any level in our government

515
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knew about what was going on and what

516
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was going to happen on that day in 2001

517
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before it happened

518
00:22:56,230 --> 00:22:51,520
we have a real problem on our hands

519
00:23:04,310 --> 00:22:58,390
you can talk about

520
00:23:06,549 --> 00:23:04,320
planes

521
00:23:09,350 --> 00:23:06,559
doctored videos

522
00:23:12,390 --> 00:23:09,360
right control demolitions you can do all

523
00:23:15,830 --> 00:23:12,400
of that all that you want

524
00:23:17,270 --> 00:23:15,840
but there is real proof that our leaders

525
00:23:19,750 --> 00:23:17,280
knew about

526
00:23:21,750 --> 00:23:19,760
it all in advance

527
00:23:24,710 --> 00:23:21,760
whatever it was

528
00:23:26,789 --> 00:23:24,720
and that's what scares me

529
00:23:29,830 --> 00:23:26,799
the fact that someone knew

530
00:23:34,230 --> 00:23:29,840
and caused this country to go into that

531
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strange surreal dreamscape and caused

532
00:23:40,390 --> 00:23:37,919
lifelong trauma is the real crime here

533
00:23:44,310 --> 00:23:40,400
and you need to think about that

534
00:23:48,830 --> 00:23:46,870
when you go through

535
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something that

536
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huge

537
00:23:54,710 --> 00:23:52,320
you change

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00:23:56,549 --> 00:23:54,720
your world view changes

539
00:23:58,070 --> 00:23:56,559
everything around you changes you don't

540
00:24:00,230 --> 00:23:58,080
look at your friends the same your

541
00:24:03,990 --> 00:24:00,240
co-workers people on the street when

542
00:24:05,669 --> 00:24:04,000
you're driving with what everything

543
00:24:07,909 --> 00:24:05,679
is different

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00:24:09,430 --> 00:24:07,919
it's a different shade

545
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and i remember

546
00:24:13,590 --> 00:24:11,760
specifically

547
00:24:15,110 --> 00:24:13,600
on 911

548
00:24:19,990 --> 00:24:15,120
how

549
00:24:21,669 --> 00:24:20,000
you know when a thunderstorm and you've

550
00:24:24,230 --> 00:24:21,679
got the great clouds overhead and

551
00:24:26,710 --> 00:24:24,240
everything just goes into that sepia

552
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orange gray thing

553
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that's what i went through

554
00:24:33,029 --> 00:24:31,520
and i know that everybody else was doing

555
00:24:35,590 --> 00:24:33,039
the exact same thing

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it's traumatic

557
00:24:40,710 --> 00:24:38,000
and to put this population and much of

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the world through that kind of

559
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of of emotional

560
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drama and trauma

561
00:24:55,430 --> 00:24:53,350
it all tipped off for me

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00:24:57,430 --> 00:24:55,440
with one single

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thing

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right after 9 11

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and i'm following the news just like

566
00:25:05,669 --> 00:25:03,600
everybody else and i'm trying to absorb

567
00:25:08,789 --> 00:25:05,679
everything just like everybody else was

568
00:25:14,950 --> 00:25:13,269
but when every plane in this country was

569
00:25:18,149 --> 00:25:14,960
grounded

570
00:25:19,190 --> 00:25:18,159
and nobody could fly anywhere my own

571
00:25:20,710 --> 00:25:19,200
mother

572
00:25:24,230 --> 00:25:20,720
had to drive

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from columbus ohio to south bend indiana

574
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because my grandfather her father

575
00:25:31,510 --> 00:25:28,720
was in the hospital and was about to

576
00:25:33,830 --> 00:25:31,520
pass away she could not fly all the

577
00:25:36,710 --> 00:25:33,840
flights were grounded and he passed away

578
00:25:37,669 --> 00:25:36,720
that week by the way and i couldn't fly

579
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home

580
00:25:42,149 --> 00:25:39,600
so when all of those planes were

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grounded

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the only flights that were in the air

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were the bin laden family in private

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jets getting flown out of the united

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states

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now that that right there said to me

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somebody knows something

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nobody's talking about it

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and that scared me

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and i knew then

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i knew then that no matter what what the

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story was going to be no matter what

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what what how how they were going to lay

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it out that it wasn't going to be the

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truth

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now

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i will say this

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before justin comes on the show

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it may be

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that it was just terrorists

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on planes that flew into these buildings

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and crashed into uh uh a field in

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pennsylvania crashed into the pentagon

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it just may be that that's all it was

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okay

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all right

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but

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our government and people in the

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government from the highest levels on

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down

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knew

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in advance

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that it was going to happen

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that

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is the bigger crime you can talk any

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conspiracy theory you want you want the

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ultimate conspiracy you want the

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00:27:04,950 --> 00:27:04,080
ultimate false flag it's that right

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there

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this is fade to black and on this

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anniversary

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of september 11 2001

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justin deschamps and i of stillness of

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the storm are going to discuss every

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angle of 911. are we going to get

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answers tonight we might and i hope that

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we do but what we need to do is continue

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this conversation

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i'm going to be right back after this

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short break with our guest justin the

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shams this is fade to black on the game

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all right welcome back paid to black i'm

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heroes jimmy church

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tonight is our september 11th

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9 11 special event with our guest justin

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deschamps

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i'm dedicating this broadcast to jim

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mars

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born on december 5th 1943

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passed away

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last year august 2nd 2017

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mars was a member of the scholars for 9

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11 truth

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and in 2003 his book the war on freedom

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probed the alleged conspiracies of the

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september 11th attacks and their

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aftermath and it was released in 2006

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under the title the terror conspiracy uh

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jim i miss you every single day and i

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hope you're listening right now our

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guest tonight is justin deschamps

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and tonight is september 11th

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and we are going to discuss the full

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story behind what happened that day in

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2001 we will try to find out what may be

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the real truth behind the attack

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00:34:03,029 --> 00:34:01,440
uh was it them was it us was it a

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combination of both we're going to

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discuss all of that tonight justin was

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born in portland maine and grew up in

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the boston area as a physics psychology

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and spirituality student he has been

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searching for truth all of his life

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looking to make sense of all of the

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insanity of this world in that time he

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has developed a holistic body of

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knowledge linking science philosophy and

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spirituality into a single framework of

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never expanding understanding he wants

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to share that truth to the world

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becoming a teacher to some and a student

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to others his goal is to help himself

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and others become a better truth seeker

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and with his wisdom gained in the

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process make this planet the paradise it

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was meant to be

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that's right his website is stillness in

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the storm and i would like to welcome

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back to fade to black

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justin de champs justin good evening my

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friend how are you

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00:34:56,950 --> 00:34:54,639
good jimmy good to be back it's good to

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hear your voice as always the the voice

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of reason you center me my friend you

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yeah the student

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and the teacher yeah that you are

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justin on this day um i want to ask you

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first take me back

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to where you were on september 11th uh

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well i was in college at the time i was

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attending university at uh

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math lowell in massachusetts

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and i remember

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i got up

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00:35:36,310 --> 00:35:34,560
oh probably like at eight o'clock that

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day something like that i was gonna get

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into school i commuted

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and a friend of mine called and said

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have you seen the news

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00:35:46,069 --> 00:35:43,760
i said no i haven't seen the news so i

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go and flip on the tv

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and of course as a lot of people

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00:35:51,190 --> 00:35:49,440
discovered there was a massive event

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00:35:53,190 --> 00:35:51,200
happening i think at that point the

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first tower was hit

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um and the second tower hadn't been

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00:35:59,510 --> 00:35:56,960
struck yet and

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00:36:01,990 --> 00:35:59,520
just mayhem was ensuing and and i was in

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00:36:04,390 --> 00:36:02,000
massachusetts at the time so it was a

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00:36:05,990 --> 00:36:04,400
it was a pretty catalyzing for me and i

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00:36:07,430 --> 00:36:06,000
i didn't really fully understand what

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was happening obviously at the time

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because i wasn't gone from my wake up

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experience yet but i remember it being

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monumental and my father was actually in

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new york at the time thankfully he

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00:36:19,990 --> 00:36:17,359
didn't have to deal with any issues but

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so yeah that's how i heard about it

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00:36:26,390 --> 00:36:22,960
yeah uh and and looking back he just

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00:36:29,270 --> 00:36:26,400
reminded me i had uh friends and clients

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that were in new york city that day

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about to film a music video

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and they were

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at a hotel down the street

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and uh when all of this happened and

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yeah i was uh

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uh desperately trying to reach out to a

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few

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uh friends of mine that were in new york

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city but it was like impossible to get

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through i happened to get through

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uh to a couple of of friends

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but uh

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it was it was tough and watching the

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other thing that i do remember well i

833
00:37:09,349 --> 00:37:06,320
remember all of it but things that stick

834
00:37:13,190 --> 00:37:09,359
out of my mind was the

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uh mass exodus of everybody on foot

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right the columns and of people you know

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00:37:23,030 --> 00:37:19,760
on bridges and roads and and just just

838
00:37:27,030 --> 00:37:23,040
trying to get off of manhattan

839
00:37:28,470 --> 00:37:27,040
that was an unbelievable thing to see um

840
00:37:30,790 --> 00:37:28,480
i watched the buildings come down in

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00:37:33,270 --> 00:37:30,800
real time like everybody else did

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00:37:35,750 --> 00:37:33,280
but it was uh

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00:37:38,230 --> 00:37:35,760
some of the other things

844
00:37:39,750 --> 00:37:38,240
that that i was just referring to the

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00:37:43,349 --> 00:37:39,760
surreal

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00:37:46,230 --> 00:37:43,359
dreamscape that your mind goes into

847
00:37:47,829 --> 00:37:46,240
during events like this and i cannot

848
00:37:51,030 --> 00:37:47,839
imagine

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00:37:52,710 --> 00:37:51,040
what was going through the minds of of

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00:37:54,630 --> 00:37:52,720
everyone on

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00:37:57,190 --> 00:37:54,640
manhattan that day

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00:38:00,310 --> 00:37:57,200
you know right just an unbelievable

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00:38:02,870 --> 00:38:00,320
traumatic event unbelievable

854
00:38:03,910 --> 00:38:02,880
well what's so interesting about that um

855
00:38:06,550 --> 00:38:03,920
you know before we get into the

856
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conspiratorial aspects of this event is

857
00:38:10,950 --> 00:38:09,760
i actually think the the response of the

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people there

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00:38:15,030 --> 00:38:12,720
in new york

860
00:38:16,470 --> 00:38:15,040
was one of those moments that

861
00:38:18,310 --> 00:38:16,480
reveals

862
00:38:19,829 --> 00:38:18,320
that we actually do have a good human

863
00:38:21,750 --> 00:38:19,839
nature because i mean you know these

864
00:38:22,790 --> 00:38:21,760
massive events happen false flags take

865
00:38:24,470 --> 00:38:22,800
place

866
00:38:27,030 --> 00:38:24,480
thousands of people die it's arguably

867
00:38:28,550 --> 00:38:27,040
this huge tragedy people's entire world

868
00:38:30,310 --> 00:38:28,560
views are shaken up

869
00:38:32,470 --> 00:38:30,320
and instead of there being like mass

870
00:38:34,790 --> 00:38:32,480
murder and complete chaos like you'd

871
00:38:36,230 --> 00:38:34,800
expect there was people hugging each

872
00:38:38,310 --> 00:38:36,240
other there's people helping each other

873
00:38:39,829 --> 00:38:38,320
out you had a whole bunch of examples of

874
00:38:41,190 --> 00:38:39,839
people being humanitarians and good

875
00:38:41,910 --> 00:38:41,200
samaritans

876
00:38:43,670 --> 00:38:41,920
so

877
00:38:45,510 --> 00:38:43,680
i think this is one of these times where

878
00:38:47,349 --> 00:38:45,520
you know you strip away the facade you

879
00:38:50,150 --> 00:38:47,359
strip away all of the

880
00:38:52,069 --> 00:38:50,160
the manipulated reality that we live in

881
00:38:54,150 --> 00:38:52,079
and you get it down to bare bones at a

882
00:38:55,990 --> 00:38:54,160
psychological level and the goodness

883
00:38:57,510 --> 00:38:56,000
that is inherent in most people just

884
00:38:59,670 --> 00:38:57,520
kind of comes to the fore and i think

885
00:39:01,349 --> 00:38:59,680
that was one of the the silver linings

886
00:39:02,790 --> 00:39:01,359
of this event for sure

887
00:39:04,310 --> 00:39:02,800
ultimately

888
00:39:05,349 --> 00:39:04,320
uh in

889
00:39:10,790 --> 00:39:05,359
your

890
00:39:11,990 --> 00:39:10,800
what do you think the short version

891
00:39:14,630 --> 00:39:12,000
we're going to discuss all of this

892
00:39:15,430 --> 00:39:14,640
tonight the short version what do you

893
00:39:19,430 --> 00:39:15,440
think

894
00:39:22,310 --> 00:39:20,950
oh boy um

895
00:39:24,790 --> 00:39:22,320
well

896
00:39:26,829 --> 00:39:24,800
i would say that

897
00:39:30,150 --> 00:39:26,839
from a dark occult

898
00:39:31,990 --> 00:39:30,160
perspective the 9 11 attack had occult

899
00:39:33,910 --> 00:39:32,000
overtones it was it took place on

900
00:39:34,710 --> 00:39:33,920
september 11th

901
00:39:37,430 --> 00:39:34,720
and

902
00:39:40,230 --> 00:39:37,440
the 911 is significant from a

903
00:39:42,630 --> 00:39:40,240
kabbalistic perspective because

904
00:39:45,349 --> 00:39:42,640
we're skipping the 10th sephirot which

905
00:39:46,630 --> 00:39:45,359
is the ancients of days or kater which

906
00:39:48,790 --> 00:39:46,640
symbolizes

907
00:39:51,510 --> 00:39:48,800
usually the justice card or man's

908
00:39:54,470 --> 00:39:51,520
knowledge of the divine or divine law

909
00:39:55,670 --> 00:39:54,480
the embodiment of law okay so in that in

910
00:39:58,310 --> 00:39:55,680
that sense

911
00:40:00,550 --> 00:39:58,320
from a darker cull perspective what the

912
00:40:01,430 --> 00:40:00,560
event was was an attack

913
00:40:04,069 --> 00:40:01,440
on

914
00:40:06,470 --> 00:40:04,079
the the knowledge of law the goodness

915
00:40:08,630 --> 00:40:06,480
the true sovereignty

916
00:40:10,790 --> 00:40:08,640
that we have on this planet and it was i

917
00:40:13,910 --> 00:40:10,800
think a declaration of war

918
00:40:15,750 --> 00:40:13,920
on the positive forces the light forces

919
00:40:17,750 --> 00:40:15,760
and so this battle that's been happening

920
00:40:19,750 --> 00:40:17,760
on the planet for a very long time

921
00:40:22,470 --> 00:40:19,760
and the powers that be

922
00:40:24,550 --> 00:40:22,480
wanted to have some type of occult event

923
00:40:26,230 --> 00:40:24,560
that would signal to the people who had

924
00:40:28,950 --> 00:40:26,240
the eyes and ears to see

925
00:40:31,990 --> 00:40:28,960
that the we are literally declaring war

926
00:40:34,309 --> 00:40:32,000
on the fabric of reality that governs

927
00:40:35,349 --> 00:40:34,319
you know our interaction with the divine

928
00:40:37,030 --> 00:40:35,359
so

929
00:40:38,950 --> 00:40:37,040
i think that's a really big thread that

930
00:40:40,230 --> 00:40:38,960
happened that also happened on tuesday

931
00:40:41,109 --> 00:40:40,240
when tuesday

932
00:40:43,670 --> 00:40:41,119
um

933
00:40:46,470 --> 00:40:43,680
relates to the god of war so it was it

934
00:40:48,870 --> 00:40:46,480
had those overtones of being a an act of

935
00:40:50,150 --> 00:40:48,880
war on you know the lawful side and

936
00:40:51,750 --> 00:40:50,160
there's certainly other threads we could

937
00:40:52,710 --> 00:40:51,760
pull from but that's one point though

938
00:40:55,030 --> 00:40:52,720
out there

939
00:40:56,790 --> 00:40:55,040
well let's stay with that for a second

940
00:40:59,349 --> 00:40:56,800
okay so

941
00:41:00,069 --> 00:40:59,359
that's a very interesting point to bring

942
00:41:01,030 --> 00:41:00,079
up

943
00:41:01,910 --> 00:41:01,040
now

944
00:41:03,270 --> 00:41:01,920
who

945
00:41:05,990 --> 00:41:03,280
would

946
00:41:07,589 --> 00:41:06,000
uh institute that plan on that day are

947
00:41:09,910 --> 00:41:07,599
we talking about

948
00:41:12,069 --> 00:41:09,920
bin laden or

949
00:41:13,910 --> 00:41:12,079
was bin laden working with others with

950
00:41:17,030 --> 00:41:13,920
this date was obviously planned in

951
00:41:21,670 --> 00:41:17,040
advance and if they were using it for

952
00:41:22,630 --> 00:41:21,680
for those uh significant reasons uh

953
00:41:26,790 --> 00:41:22,640
who

954
00:41:28,870 --> 00:41:26,800
would would bin laden have had that

955
00:41:31,670 --> 00:41:28,880
knowledge

956
00:41:33,910 --> 00:41:31,680
right or probably not yeah yeah

957
00:41:35,349 --> 00:41:33,920
yeah i don't think bin laden was aware

958
00:41:36,790 --> 00:41:35,359
of it i mean it's certainly possible he

959
00:41:38,150 --> 00:41:36,800
could have been one of these deep

960
00:41:39,750 --> 00:41:38,160
insiders

961
00:41:41,349 --> 00:41:39,760
but i think there were like a lot of

962
00:41:42,710 --> 00:41:41,359
people who got caught up in this thing i

963
00:41:44,710 --> 00:41:42,720
think there were a lot of ponds that

964
00:41:46,069 --> 00:41:44,720
were just either quote unquote following

965
00:41:48,230 --> 00:41:46,079
orders or

966
00:41:49,510 --> 00:41:48,240
doing what they thought was beneficial

967
00:41:51,430 --> 00:41:49,520
so bin laden could have been one of

968
00:41:53,750 --> 00:41:51,440
these guys he really did believe that a

969
00:41:57,589 --> 00:41:53,760
jihad against the west was a good thing

970
00:42:00,309 --> 00:41:57,599
and then he was used as a um operative

971
00:42:02,630 --> 00:42:00,319
so he was he was that actor right so he

972
00:42:06,470 --> 00:42:02,640
was given the date the date didn't have

973
00:42:09,829 --> 00:42:06,480
significance for him it was just a date

974
00:42:11,349 --> 00:42:09,839
right exactly yeah that's interesting

975
00:42:13,430 --> 00:42:11,359
i mean the other and then to lend

976
00:42:15,030 --> 00:42:13,440
credence to that i mean the if i

977
00:42:16,710 --> 00:42:15,040
remember correctly

978
00:42:19,190 --> 00:42:16,720
the the building was

979
00:42:21,190 --> 00:42:19,200
started to be built the plans began at

980
00:42:23,190 --> 00:42:21,200
60 years to the day

981
00:42:24,790 --> 00:42:23,200
before the september 11th attacks in

982
00:42:27,190 --> 00:42:24,800
2001

983
00:42:28,550 --> 00:42:27,200
so there's there's a whole spot of

984
00:42:29,910 --> 00:42:28,560
evidence out there you could go down a

985
00:42:31,910 --> 00:42:29,920
massive rabbit hole to suggest that

986
00:42:34,390 --> 00:42:31,920
they've been planning this to the dark

987
00:42:36,230 --> 00:42:34,400
recall ritual this false flag event for

988
00:42:39,829 --> 00:42:36,240
potentially at least the past 60 years

989
00:42:42,069 --> 00:42:39,839
and arguably even earlier before that

990
00:42:42,829 --> 00:42:42,079
the uh

991
00:42:44,710 --> 00:42:42,839
the

992
00:42:47,670 --> 00:42:44,720
reality of

993
00:42:49,430 --> 00:42:47,680
the attacks and the events and the

994
00:42:50,710 --> 00:42:49,440
enormity

995
00:42:52,230 --> 00:42:50,720
of it

996
00:42:53,910 --> 00:42:52,240
for you

997
00:42:55,910 --> 00:42:53,920
what was

998
00:42:57,750 --> 00:42:55,920
the first clue

999
00:43:01,910 --> 00:42:57,760
that there was something else going on

1000
00:43:03,030 --> 00:43:01,920
here than what we what we were told

1001
00:43:04,390 --> 00:43:03,040
sure

1002
00:43:06,550 --> 00:43:04,400
well um

1003
00:43:08,230 --> 00:43:06,560
geez for many years i didn't really

1004
00:43:11,670 --> 00:43:08,240
question anything it wasn't until i had

1005
00:43:14,069 --> 00:43:11,680
my wake-up experience in 2010 that i saw

1006
00:43:15,589 --> 00:43:14,079
i believe it was the loose change right

1007
00:43:18,150 --> 00:43:15,599
and i actually got to see the video

1008
00:43:20,870 --> 00:43:18,160
footage of these explosions happening

1009
00:43:22,150 --> 00:43:20,880
moments before the planes were hitting

1010
00:43:24,390 --> 00:43:22,160
and then you see like these others

1011
00:43:26,790 --> 00:43:24,400
explosions happening as the towers

1012
00:43:28,309 --> 00:43:26,800
collapsing you know several floors down

1013
00:43:29,670 --> 00:43:28,319
you're seeing these explosions come out

1014
00:43:31,349 --> 00:43:29,680
of certain windows

1015
00:43:32,790 --> 00:43:31,359
so that's when i really started to say

1016
00:43:34,150 --> 00:43:32,800
wait a minute there's just something not

1017
00:43:36,230 --> 00:43:34,160
right there and then you know i also

1018
00:43:38,069 --> 00:43:36,240
thought about the physics behind it

1019
00:43:39,589 --> 00:43:38,079
again i hadn't really contemplated it

1020
00:43:41,270 --> 00:43:39,599
because i just so readily accepted the

1021
00:43:43,829 --> 00:43:41,280
mainstream narrative but once my eyes

1022
00:43:46,069 --> 00:43:43,839
were opened i thought to myself you know

1023
00:43:48,390 --> 00:43:46,079
how often does is it that a massive

1024
00:43:51,670 --> 00:43:48,400
skyscraper that is literally designed to

1025
00:43:53,270 --> 00:43:51,680
withstand the impact of large airlines

1026
00:43:54,390 --> 00:43:53,280
uh airplanes

1027
00:43:56,870 --> 00:43:54,400
how is it that

1028
00:43:59,190 --> 00:43:56,880
that building gets hit it burns for a

1029
00:44:01,190 --> 00:43:59,200
few hours and then it falls into its own

1030
00:44:03,589 --> 00:44:01,200
footprint at freeze falls free fall

1031
00:44:05,109 --> 00:44:03,599
speed with almost no debris right i mean

1032
00:44:06,390 --> 00:44:05,119
that's when i really started to question

1033
00:44:08,069 --> 00:44:06,400
things like wait a minute there's way

1034
00:44:09,829 --> 00:44:08,079
more happening here than what the

1035
00:44:12,309 --> 00:44:09,839
official story is telling us

1036
00:44:14,069 --> 00:44:12,319
for me i go i get caught in this

1037
00:44:19,270 --> 00:44:14,079
catch-22

1038
00:44:22,870 --> 00:44:19,280
out of it

1039
00:44:25,430 --> 00:44:22,880
is that we have the events and if i just

1040
00:44:26,790 --> 00:44:25,440
take it as planes flying into the world

1041
00:44:29,270 --> 00:44:26,800
trade center

1042
00:44:31,670 --> 00:44:29,280
uh hijacked by terrorists

1043
00:44:34,710 --> 00:44:31,680
uh that's one thing

1044
00:44:38,069 --> 00:44:34,720
and but the the other part of it is

1045
00:44:40,150 --> 00:44:38,079
besides the government knowing in

1046
00:44:43,430 --> 00:44:40,160
advance and clearly

1047
00:44:44,309 --> 00:44:43,440
factually there is proof that they did

1048
00:44:46,710 --> 00:44:44,319
so

1049
00:44:49,349 --> 00:44:46,720
you have that element of it

1050
00:44:51,430 --> 00:44:49,359
and but if you want to stay with the

1051
00:44:52,390 --> 00:44:51,440
narrative that it was planes that flew

1052
00:44:55,190 --> 00:44:52,400
in

1053
00:44:56,870 --> 00:44:55,200
that okay let's let's just say we buy

1054
00:44:59,589 --> 00:44:56,880
into all of that the government knew in

1055
00:45:01,829 --> 00:44:59,599
advance and the planes flew in

1056
00:45:03,430 --> 00:45:01,839
we have this huge thing caught in the

1057
00:45:05,190 --> 00:45:03,440
middle

1058
00:45:08,470 --> 00:45:05,200
they fell

1059
00:45:12,390 --> 00:45:08,480
the buildings fell down

1060
00:45:14,309 --> 00:45:12,400
and that's the part where all of this

1061
00:45:16,150 --> 00:45:14,319
any idea now

1062
00:45:17,990 --> 00:45:16,160
has to get looked at

1063
00:45:19,190 --> 00:45:18,000
because i just don't see those buildings

1064
00:45:22,150 --> 00:45:19,200
falling

1065
00:45:23,990 --> 00:45:22,160
and i'm going to ask you directly before

1066
00:45:26,470 --> 00:45:24,000
they fell did you ever visit the world

1067
00:45:28,309 --> 00:45:26,480
trade centers

1068
00:45:30,150 --> 00:45:28,319
i did i didn't actually go inside but i

1069
00:45:31,589 --> 00:45:30,160
walked to the little pavilion park they

1070
00:45:33,910 --> 00:45:31,599
had in between them at one point when i

1071
00:45:35,670 --> 00:45:33,920
was really young yeah and so and that

1072
00:45:38,230 --> 00:45:35,680
that's great right

1073
00:45:40,390 --> 00:45:38,240
because you got to see

1074
00:45:42,630 --> 00:45:40,400
these buildings

1075
00:45:44,230 --> 00:45:42,640
all of manhattan you walk around and you

1076
00:45:45,510 --> 00:45:44,240
see this this great architecture and

1077
00:45:47,670 --> 00:45:45,520
they're huge these streets and you're

1078
00:45:50,069 --> 00:45:47,680
walking down all you do is look up right

1079
00:45:52,150 --> 00:45:50,079
you're looking up everywhere

1080
00:45:54,390 --> 00:45:52,160
and and then you get to the world trade

1081
00:45:56,150 --> 00:45:54,400
center and they were totally

1082
00:46:01,270 --> 00:45:56,160
on another scale

1083
00:46:03,510 --> 00:46:01,280
of size and strength they were just huge

1084
00:46:06,550 --> 00:46:03,520
monolithic yeah a monolithic i can't

1085
00:46:10,150 --> 00:46:06,560
even uh still to this day when

1086
00:46:13,190 --> 00:46:10,160
when you go and uh think about that they

1087
00:46:15,750 --> 00:46:13,200
were just there was just no no way to me

1088
00:46:18,390 --> 00:46:15,760
in my mind's eye that they just fell

1089
00:46:21,349 --> 00:46:18,400
down it's it's an impossibility

1090
00:46:23,270 --> 00:46:21,359
um last two years ago

1091
00:46:25,829 --> 00:46:23,280
uh three years ago two years ago rita

1092
00:46:28,870 --> 00:46:25,839
and i went to manhattan and we went down

1093
00:46:30,950 --> 00:46:28,880
to the memorial there and where they

1094
00:46:35,109 --> 00:46:30,960
have the two uh pools uh the two

1095
00:46:37,430 --> 00:46:35,119
fountains the pools and you you look at

1096
00:46:39,430 --> 00:46:37,440
the square where you know the footprint

1097
00:46:41,109 --> 00:46:39,440
of the build and you look at that

1098
00:46:44,390 --> 00:46:41,119
and you look over at

1099
00:46:45,910 --> 00:46:44,400
at world one um and you look up at that

1100
00:46:48,230 --> 00:46:45,920
and you look at the size of it and then

1101
00:46:50,309 --> 00:46:48,240
you just imagine these two buildings

1102
00:46:51,510 --> 00:46:50,319
sitting right next to it that big right

1103
00:46:54,950 --> 00:46:51,520
that tall

1104
00:46:57,030 --> 00:46:54,960
with that huge footprint going up and it

1105
00:46:59,030 --> 00:46:57,040
it just doesn't compute

1106
00:47:01,109 --> 00:46:59,040
that these buildings were actually there

1107
00:47:02,950 --> 00:47:01,119
and brought down by planes and that's

1108
00:47:05,589 --> 00:47:02,960
the catch 22

1109
00:47:07,430 --> 00:47:05,599
that i find myself in you can go with

1110
00:47:09,109 --> 00:47:07,440
one narrative and you can accept that

1111
00:47:11,190 --> 00:47:09,119
but then you go into the other one that

1112
00:47:13,349 --> 00:47:11,200
they fell down

1113
00:47:15,030 --> 00:47:13,359
that's that's where things started to

1114
00:47:16,550 --> 00:47:15,040
open up for me it just doesn't make any

1115
00:47:18,630 --> 00:47:16,560
sense

1116
00:47:20,150 --> 00:47:18,640
yeah exactly i mean that's the thing is

1117
00:47:21,910 --> 00:47:20,160
once you start putting

1118
00:47:23,990 --> 00:47:21,920
the pieces on the table you start

1119
00:47:25,430 --> 00:47:24,000
looking at the available evidence we

1120
00:47:27,589 --> 00:47:25,440
have there's just glaring

1121
00:47:29,510 --> 00:47:27,599
inconsistencies everywhere i mean the

1122
00:47:31,109 --> 00:47:29,520
fact that they seem to be planned for

1123
00:47:32,870 --> 00:47:31,119
many years in advance

1124
00:47:34,470 --> 00:47:32,880
i think if i remember correctly

1125
00:47:35,990 --> 00:47:34,480
silverstein the guy who owned the lease

1126
00:47:38,549 --> 00:47:36,000
on the building he took out an insurance

1127
00:47:40,870 --> 00:47:38,559
policy like a few months beforehand uh

1128
00:47:42,790 --> 00:47:40,880
you got donald rumsfeld going up there

1129
00:47:45,109 --> 00:47:42,800
uh the day before and saying that the

1130
00:47:47,190 --> 00:47:45,119
whole bunch of money is missing from the

1131
00:47:49,270 --> 00:47:47,200
pentagon budget

1132
00:47:51,910 --> 00:47:49,280
i mean it's just item after item after

1133
00:47:54,470 --> 00:47:51,920
item and it is one of these events that

1134
00:47:56,710 --> 00:47:54,480
stands as a glaring example of the

1135
00:47:59,030 --> 00:47:56,720
manipulation on our world so you know i

1136
00:48:01,829 --> 00:47:59,040
think the last time i saw

1137
00:48:04,549 --> 00:48:01,839
a survey on it i want to say up to 70

1138
00:48:06,549 --> 00:48:04,559
percent of people asked

1139
00:48:07,910 --> 00:48:06,559
whether or not 911 was the official

1140
00:48:10,549 --> 00:48:07,920
story was real or not they said that the

1141
00:48:13,030 --> 00:48:10,559
official story seemed concocted

1142
00:48:14,549 --> 00:48:13,040
so this is a massive wake-up event for a

1143
00:48:16,150 --> 00:48:14,559
lot of people

1144
00:48:18,390 --> 00:48:16,160
and the

1145
00:48:20,230 --> 00:48:18,400
the other okay now we're going to get

1146
00:48:22,630 --> 00:48:20,240
into a lot of different aspects of this

1147
00:48:25,670 --> 00:48:22,640
but let's just talk about some of the

1148
00:48:27,510 --> 00:48:25,680
the the facts that were

1149
00:48:29,750 --> 00:48:27,520
pushed upon us

1150
00:48:32,950 --> 00:48:29,760
that for me

1151
00:48:35,829 --> 00:48:32,960
reeked of of of bs i don't want to use

1152
00:48:38,630 --> 00:48:35,839
you know bad words but just just i

1153
00:48:43,109 --> 00:48:38,640
didn't i didn't swallow the story

1154
00:48:43,990 --> 00:48:43,119
and that was uh the passport

1155
00:48:50,390 --> 00:48:44,000
right

1156
00:48:53,270 --> 00:48:50,400
tsukami's okay so we were told

1157
00:48:55,270 --> 00:48:53,280
uh two things one that when those

1158
00:48:57,430 --> 00:48:55,280
buildings came down

1159
00:48:59,510 --> 00:48:57,440
nothing was left right everything was

1160
00:49:02,630 --> 00:48:59,520
pulverized into dust

1161
00:49:04,150 --> 00:49:02,640
uh not only not only bodies but steel

1162
00:49:07,670 --> 00:49:04,160
concrete

1163
00:49:10,790 --> 00:49:07,680
phone systems computers whatever safes

1164
00:49:11,910 --> 00:49:10,800
solid whatever everything in that

1165
00:49:14,549 --> 00:49:11,920
building

1166
00:49:17,589 --> 00:49:14,559
was now dust and somehow

1167
00:49:19,589 --> 00:49:17,599
wound up in that little pile right in in

1168
00:49:21,349 --> 00:49:19,599
manhattan

1169
00:49:23,270 --> 00:49:21,359
but

1170
00:49:26,790 --> 00:49:23,280
the passport

1171
00:49:30,150 --> 00:49:26,800
winds up on a sidewalk

1172
00:49:32,230 --> 00:49:30,160
and doesn't get pulverized right and is

1173
00:49:35,349 --> 00:49:32,240
found

1174
00:49:37,109 --> 00:49:35,359
now right wait a minute i mean just

1175
00:49:38,230 --> 00:49:37,119
just

1176
00:49:41,030 --> 00:49:38,240
i mean

1177
00:49:42,069 --> 00:49:41,040
and so i backed up when when that news

1178
00:49:44,630 --> 00:49:42,079
broke

1179
00:49:46,710 --> 00:49:44,640
and and he was identified right now

1180
00:49:49,430 --> 00:49:46,720
they've got they you know and

1181
00:49:52,309 --> 00:49:49,440
and i just thought to myself people are

1182
00:49:54,150 --> 00:49:52,319
believing this i'm not

1183
00:49:55,990 --> 00:49:54,160
and i just sat back and i thought this

1184
00:49:59,109 --> 00:49:56,000
is going to blow this whole story wide

1185
00:50:00,710 --> 00:49:59,119
open people are going to uh to to

1186
00:50:03,109 --> 00:50:00,720
question this

1187
00:50:04,470 --> 00:50:03,119
and they didn't

1188
00:50:06,630 --> 00:50:04,480
well right i mean

1189
00:50:09,670 --> 00:50:06,640
keep this in mind i mean this guy

1190
00:50:12,470 --> 00:50:09,680
presumably had this passport on him he's

1191
00:50:14,790 --> 00:50:12,480
in an airplane he uses a missile the

1192
00:50:17,190 --> 00:50:14,800
plane literally explodes

1193
00:50:20,150 --> 00:50:17,200
it hits the building the floors that

1194
00:50:22,790 --> 00:50:20,160
were enveloped by the flames burnt for

1195
00:50:24,790 --> 00:50:22,800
hours upon hours upon hours but somehow

1196
00:50:27,030 --> 00:50:24,800
this guy's passport lands basically

1197
00:50:28,710 --> 00:50:27,040
untouched on the sidewalk and is found

1198
00:50:30,230 --> 00:50:28,720
within what was it a couple weeks i

1199
00:50:32,150 --> 00:50:30,240
don't even know if it was that uh along

1200
00:50:36,390 --> 00:50:32,160
the time i they recovered this thing

1201
00:50:37,910 --> 00:50:36,400
super easy yeah yeah yeah yeah it was um

1202
00:50:39,670 --> 00:50:37,920
uh

1203
00:50:41,190 --> 00:50:39,680
one of those things

1204
00:50:43,750 --> 00:50:41,200
for me

1205
00:50:45,910 --> 00:50:43,760
that the odds of and that's what i

1206
00:50:47,829 --> 00:50:45,920
always do just i just go like to a

1207
00:50:49,190 --> 00:50:47,839
numbers game i think what are the odds

1208
00:50:52,069 --> 00:50:49,200
of this happening

1209
00:50:53,750 --> 00:50:52,079
well i mean what are the odds of you

1210
00:50:56,230 --> 00:50:53,760
walking down the street and picking up a

1211
00:50:57,190 --> 00:50:56,240
lottery ticket that's worth 300 million

1212
00:50:58,069 --> 00:50:57,200
dollars

1213
00:50:59,990 --> 00:50:58,079
right

1214
00:51:02,870 --> 00:51:00,000
that wasn't cash

1215
00:51:06,390 --> 00:51:02,880
the odds of you purchasing

1216
00:51:09,030 --> 00:51:06,400
a lottery ticket and and it winning 300

1217
00:51:11,270 --> 00:51:09,040
million dollars is one thing

1218
00:51:13,670 --> 00:51:11,280
the odds of one getting purchased and

1219
00:51:14,630 --> 00:51:13,680
then lost and you picking that up on the

1220
00:51:17,670 --> 00:51:14,640
street

1221
00:51:20,470 --> 00:51:17,680
now we're talking about stupid a stupid

1222
00:51:23,589 --> 00:51:20,480
number and that's where

1223
00:51:24,950 --> 00:51:23,599
we are at with this that the passport

1224
00:51:26,230 --> 00:51:24,960
fluttered

1225
00:51:29,589 --> 00:51:26,240
in the air

1226
00:51:30,630 --> 00:51:29,599
survived the the flames the fire

1227
00:51:31,670 --> 00:51:30,640
survive

1228
00:51:33,750 --> 00:51:31,680
uh

1229
00:51:35,990 --> 00:51:33,760
the collapse of the building

1230
00:51:39,030 --> 00:51:36,000
whatever however it got onto that

1231
00:51:42,470 --> 00:51:39,040
sidewalk it did and was discovered

1232
00:51:43,910 --> 00:51:42,480
and that's that's just one in a huge

1233
00:51:46,710 --> 00:51:43,920
long list

1234
00:51:47,829 --> 00:51:46,720
of of things that they are expecting us

1235
00:51:48,630 --> 00:51:47,839
to buy

1236
00:51:53,270 --> 00:51:48,640
now

1237
00:51:55,030 --> 00:51:53,280
let me ask you this about this passport

1238
00:51:57,510 --> 00:51:55,040
is it possible

1239
00:51:59,109 --> 00:51:57,520
that that passport survived and was

1240
00:52:02,069 --> 00:51:59,119
actually found

1241
00:52:05,109 --> 00:52:04,309
sure it's definitively possible i mean

1242
00:52:06,790 --> 00:52:05,119
when

1243
00:52:08,549 --> 00:52:06,800
we're considering possibilities you're

1244
00:52:11,349 --> 00:52:08,559
always going to remember that anything

1245
00:52:13,349 --> 00:52:11,359
is possible but how likely is it how

1246
00:52:14,230 --> 00:52:13,359
probable is it given everything that we

1247
00:52:16,470 --> 00:52:14,240
know

1248
00:52:19,349 --> 00:52:16,480
i mean the the odds of something like

1249
00:52:21,190 --> 00:52:19,359
that a plastic and paper passport

1250
00:52:23,750 --> 00:52:21,200
surviving that level of heat and

1251
00:52:25,190 --> 00:52:23,760
destruction is just so astronomical

1252
00:52:27,030 --> 00:52:25,200
i mean like you said you have a you have

1253
00:52:29,109 --> 00:52:27,040
a greater chance of winning the lottery

1254
00:52:31,190 --> 00:52:29,119
by not actually buying a ticket that's

1255
00:52:33,510 --> 00:52:31,200
how unlikely something like that is i

1256
00:52:38,230 --> 00:52:33,520
would wager now um

1257
00:52:40,150 --> 00:52:38,240
okay just so we can stay uh factual here

1258
00:52:44,069 --> 00:52:40,160
his passport

1259
00:52:47,750 --> 00:52:44,079
was reportedly found by someone

1260
00:52:48,630 --> 00:52:47,760
whose identity has ever been revealed

1261
00:52:51,430 --> 00:52:48,640
okay

1262
00:52:54,069 --> 00:52:51,440
um on vesey street

1263
00:52:57,109 --> 00:52:54,079
and it was um

1264
00:52:59,270 --> 00:52:57,119
uh i believe somebody can

1265
00:53:01,030 --> 00:52:59,280
uh correct me if i'm wrong

1266
00:53:03,750 --> 00:53:01,040
but it was actually found before the

1267
00:53:05,510 --> 00:53:03,760
towers collapsed

1268
00:53:08,069 --> 00:53:05,520
really yes

1269
00:53:10,390 --> 00:53:08,079
well that's a glaring red flag so i i'm

1270
00:53:12,309 --> 00:53:10,400
just i'm just

1271
00:53:14,309 --> 00:53:12,319
you know there

1272
00:53:16,390 --> 00:53:14,319
there are many issues that i have here

1273
00:53:19,430 --> 00:53:16,400
but that one

1274
00:53:21,910 --> 00:53:19,440
for me was some of the things where at

1275
00:53:24,150 --> 00:53:21,920
the very very beginning of all of this i

1276
00:53:26,630 --> 00:53:24,160
just had to sit back and go

1277
00:53:28,390 --> 00:53:26,640
something is is not right here

1278
00:53:29,190 --> 00:53:28,400
something's not right and i don't want

1279
00:53:36,630 --> 00:53:29,200
to

1280
00:53:38,790 --> 00:53:36,640
died uh the firefighters and the first

1281
00:53:40,230 --> 00:53:38,800
responders and and everybody that was

1282
00:53:43,109 --> 00:53:40,240
invited

1283
00:53:45,510 --> 00:53:43,119
that that my heart rips out for for

1284
00:53:47,349 --> 00:53:45,520
everybody involved here and i i don't

1285
00:53:49,910 --> 00:53:47,359
want to go down this road

1286
00:53:52,470 --> 00:53:49,920
but when things are this obvious we have

1287
00:53:54,630 --> 00:53:52,480
to sit back and go wait a minute here we

1288
00:53:57,910 --> 00:53:54,640
need to start to question things

1289
00:53:58,870 --> 00:53:57,920
and nobody was willing to step up and

1290
00:54:01,510 --> 00:53:58,880
with the

1291
00:54:04,710 --> 00:54:01,520
um and still haven't really i'm talking

1292
00:54:05,670 --> 00:54:04,720
about outside of our circles i'm just

1293
00:54:07,190 --> 00:54:05,680
surprised

1294
00:54:10,309 --> 00:54:07,200
the the senate hearings that were

1295
00:54:12,790 --> 00:54:10,319
involved and and everybody who was

1296
00:54:14,870 --> 00:54:12,800
trying to point fingers and blame but

1297
00:54:17,510 --> 00:54:14,880
they weren't trying to look at really

1298
00:54:20,150 --> 00:54:17,520
who knew what and what was really going

1299
00:54:22,549 --> 00:54:20,160
on that's the part that i don't know if

1300
00:54:23,990 --> 00:54:22,559
we're ever gonna find out now uh we're

1301
00:54:24,870 --> 00:54:24,000
gonna we're gonna head towards a break

1302
00:54:31,109 --> 00:54:24,880
here

1303
00:54:33,109 --> 00:54:31,119
that tipped the scales very early on

1304
00:54:35,349 --> 00:54:33,119
which is

1305
00:54:36,870 --> 00:54:35,359
the flights in the united states were

1306
00:54:38,470 --> 00:54:36,880
all grounded

1307
00:54:39,910 --> 00:54:38,480
nothing in the air

1308
00:54:41,190 --> 00:54:39,920
nowhere

1309
00:54:43,270 --> 00:54:41,200
but yet

1310
00:54:45,109 --> 00:54:43,280
the bin laden family

1311
00:54:47,829 --> 00:54:45,119
was allowed

1312
00:54:50,390 --> 00:54:47,839
to fly out of this country

1313
00:54:52,150 --> 00:54:50,400
on private jets

1314
00:54:55,270 --> 00:54:52,160
now

1315
00:54:57,670 --> 00:54:55,280
wait a minute obviously

1316
00:54:59,190 --> 00:54:57,680
right right obviously obviously i mean

1317
00:55:01,670 --> 00:54:59,200
that's the biggest red flag of all

1318
00:55:02,710 --> 00:55:01,680
obviously they knew that bin laden was

1319
00:55:04,470 --> 00:55:02,720
involved

1320
00:55:06,630 --> 00:55:04,480
and they had to get the family out of

1321
00:55:08,630 --> 00:55:06,640
this country before

1322
00:55:10,630 --> 00:55:08,640
before what

1323
00:55:12,390 --> 00:55:10,640
before one right

1324
00:55:14,150 --> 00:55:12,400
exactly well at that point why would

1325
00:55:17,270 --> 00:55:14,160
they even suspect anything because it

1326
00:55:18,710 --> 00:55:17,280
was so early in the game before what

1327
00:55:20,470 --> 00:55:18,720
so that's one of those points of

1328
00:55:23,109 --> 00:55:20,480
circumstantial evidence we have to say

1329
00:55:24,950 --> 00:55:23,119
hey wait a minute guys why is it that

1330
00:55:27,270 --> 00:55:24,960
vanilla's family's being flown out of

1331
00:55:29,750 --> 00:55:27,280
the country before he's even named the

1332
00:55:31,670 --> 00:55:29,760
suspect is it maybe because they already

1333
00:55:33,030 --> 00:55:31,680
had him pinned as a scapegoat before

1334
00:55:35,990 --> 00:55:33,040
everything happened i think that's

1335
00:55:38,789 --> 00:55:36,000
probably the most likely explanation

1336
00:55:40,230 --> 00:55:38,799
that's possible again see and and we

1337
00:55:41,589 --> 00:55:40,240
don't know

1338
00:55:42,549 --> 00:55:41,599
much

1339
00:55:44,870 --> 00:55:42,559
um

1340
00:55:46,950 --> 00:55:44,880
what i'm thankful for

1341
00:55:51,030 --> 00:55:46,960
uh well we don't know much but yet we

1342
00:55:53,510 --> 00:55:51,040
know a lot what i am thankful for is uh

1343
00:55:54,710 --> 00:55:53,520
and i'll say it right now when alex

1344
00:55:55,670 --> 00:55:54,720
jones

1345
00:55:58,309 --> 00:55:55,680
uh

1346
00:55:59,670 --> 00:55:58,319
released loose change

1347
00:56:00,950 --> 00:55:59,680
it's not

1348
00:56:09,910 --> 00:56:00,960
the

1349
00:56:13,190 --> 00:56:09,920
point is and what's most important here

1350
00:56:14,549 --> 00:56:13,200
is that they forced questions to be

1351
00:56:16,710 --> 00:56:14,559
asked

1352
00:56:19,750 --> 00:56:16,720
and that's what's most important here

1353
00:56:22,309 --> 00:56:19,760
and and so thankfully you know alex

1354
00:56:24,069 --> 00:56:22,319
jones and other theorists out there were

1355
00:56:25,670 --> 00:56:24,079
courageous enough to just go back and

1356
00:56:28,069 --> 00:56:25,680
look at this and go hey wait a minute

1357
00:56:30,549 --> 00:56:28,079
here we've got a lot of things and once

1358
00:56:32,789 --> 00:56:30,559
they started to pull on that thread

1359
00:56:34,950 --> 00:56:32,799
right everything started to come apart

1360
00:56:37,670 --> 00:56:34,960
and appointed in so many directions and

1361
00:56:38,470 --> 00:56:37,680
and now as it turns out uh we can look

1362
00:56:39,829 --> 00:56:38,480
back

1363
00:56:43,510 --> 00:56:39,839
that there were

1364
00:56:45,270 --> 00:56:43,520
hundreds of people involved uh hundreds

1365
00:56:47,750 --> 00:56:45,280
of reasons

1366
00:56:50,309 --> 00:56:47,760
there was a lot of motive

1367
00:56:51,109 --> 00:56:50,319
right of from so many different people

1368
00:56:54,150 --> 00:56:51,119
right

1369
00:56:55,670 --> 00:56:54,160
and and things are not what they seem so

1370
00:56:58,470 --> 00:56:55,680
let's uh let's continue this

1371
00:57:00,870 --> 00:56:58,480
conversation justin and we'll pick up

1372
00:57:03,349 --> 00:57:00,880
when we come back after this break and

1373
00:57:05,670 --> 00:57:03,359
again i'm dedicating this show to the

1374
00:57:08,230 --> 00:57:05,680
one and only jim mars who passed away

1375
00:57:10,390 --> 00:57:08,240
last august in 2017

1376
00:57:12,150 --> 00:57:10,400
who was one of the brave journalists out

1377
00:57:14,470 --> 00:57:12,160
there that was willing to not only

1378
00:57:16,309 --> 00:57:14,480
publish books but go on the record and

1379
00:57:18,789 --> 00:57:16,319
speak about this he wasn't going to let

1380
00:57:20,230 --> 00:57:18,799
it go rest in peace jim mars this is

1381
00:57:22,710 --> 00:57:20,240
fade to black our guest tonight justin

1382
00:57:24,069 --> 00:57:22,720
deschamps this is fade to black i'm real

1383
00:57:25,349 --> 00:57:24,079
jimmy church

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00:57:29,430 --> 00:57:25,359
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[Music]

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welcome back fade to black

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i guess tonight justin deschamps

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tonight is our september 11th 9 11

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special event i'm dedicating this show

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to

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author journalist jim mars

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and justin the first thing that i want

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to jump into is a point that you brought

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up uh earlier

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which is uh controlled demolitions and

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let's uh let's let's let's jump into

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this uh quite directly

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uh

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with the controlled demolitions and why

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well i think the big thing that stood

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out for me is i saw some photographs of

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some support beams

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and they had

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these sharp angles i believe they were

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about 60 to 45 degree angles that just

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look like cuts like you'd somebody just

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taken a blow torch and just carved right

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through this thing like it was butter

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so that was a big indicator for me and

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then i saw a presentation um i want to

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say it was an engineer this was god it's

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going to be up six years ago now and he

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had discussed you know the thermite

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issue that it appears that there were

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nanoparticles

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related to some byproducts of thermite

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there that are normally used in a

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controlled definition so you got those

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two pieces of evidence but then you just

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look at the towers and the way they fell

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i mean

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if you if you just do even a precursory

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search online for towers falling or

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buildings falling

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you know and

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most of the time when a building falls

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in its own footprint it's because it was

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a controlled demolition i couldn't find

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any example

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where a tower fell or a building fell

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and it fell perfectly in its own

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footprint

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and it not being controlled demolition

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so those are the two big major points

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that i kind of cite is massive red flags

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for this thing being controlled

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demolition

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the

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uh

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we have that the one tape when building

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seven you know uh

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uh

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came down to as well which seemed like

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a

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surrounding buildings but nothing

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else really happened except for that

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and it looked controlled to me too as

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01:04:49,510 --> 01:04:48,160
well i did see a controlled demolition

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in las vegas

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i watched uh from caesar's palace i

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watched uh a hotel across the street uh

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get get blown up and it was

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uh and brought down it was it was uh

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01:05:06,789 --> 01:05:05,359
pretty fascinating to see

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01:05:09,829 --> 01:05:06,799
what yeah

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01:05:11,990 --> 01:05:09,839
yeah well see that but what

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01:05:14,549 --> 01:05:12,000
what

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this is this is my takeaway from that

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and it's the same thing that happened

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on september 11th

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in that when you see buildings in a

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01:05:26,549 --> 01:05:24,720
controlled demolition you always see it

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in slow motion

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01:05:30,950 --> 01:05:28,720
okay they slow it down you don't see it

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in real time

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01:05:35,910 --> 01:05:33,440
the building across the street this

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hotel i'm trying to think of uh i'm

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trying to think of the name of the hotel

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01:05:43,510 --> 01:05:39,760
um but anyway

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um it was there and then it was gone

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01:05:49,829 --> 01:05:46,640
if you blinked you you missed it it was

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01:05:53,109 --> 01:05:49,839
literally that fast it took a second

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right maybe two seconds and it was gone

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01:05:57,750 --> 01:05:56,160
and it was the same thing with the world

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trade centers

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that they just came down uh

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so fast that it reminded me of uh what i

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01:06:08,710 --> 01:06:07,760
saw in in las vegas

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01:06:11,029 --> 01:06:08,720
so

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is is it a possibility well this is the

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01:06:15,670 --> 01:06:13,039
thing and this is what i wanted to ask

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you about that to do that

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01:06:20,309 --> 01:06:19,359
you would have to go in uh

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for

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probably days if not weeks in advance

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01:06:28,230 --> 01:06:26,240
and and wire this building up

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01:06:31,510 --> 01:06:28,240
right you would have to go in and get

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01:06:33,750 --> 01:06:31,520
this done is that possible

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01:06:35,589 --> 01:06:33,760
i mean if you've ever seen they've had a

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01:06:37,750 --> 01:06:35,599
couple shows i saw one a few years ago

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01:06:39,029 --> 01:06:37,760
where they they follow like

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01:06:41,109 --> 01:06:39,039
crews

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01:06:42,630 --> 01:06:41,119
to see how much prep work has to do to

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01:06:44,549 --> 01:06:42,640
bring down a building

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01:06:46,950 --> 01:06:44,559
i watched this one i think the building

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01:06:49,270 --> 01:06:46,960
was maybe six stories tall and they were

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01:06:51,029 --> 01:06:49,280
in there for like six months

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01:06:53,510 --> 01:06:51,039
they had to take the plans they had to

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01:06:55,270 --> 01:06:53,520
identify all the load-bearing structures

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01:06:57,270 --> 01:06:55,280
they had to go in and survey where those

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01:07:00,230 --> 01:06:57,280
alerts loads bearing structures were

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01:07:02,150 --> 01:07:00,240
find critical junction points put a

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01:07:03,589 --> 01:07:02,160
certain and specific amount of charge on

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01:07:06,549 --> 01:07:03,599
those critical junction points and they

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01:07:08,870 --> 01:07:06,559
had to time out those charges

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01:07:10,150 --> 01:07:08,880
so that they all exploded precisely so

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01:07:11,670 --> 01:07:10,160
when you know when you're taking down a

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01:07:13,670 --> 01:07:11,680
building it's not like you just load

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01:07:15,029 --> 01:07:13,680
fill the thing up with tnt and you light

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01:07:17,029 --> 01:07:15,039
a match and you walk away and everything

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01:07:18,870 --> 01:07:17,039
works out perfectly that's not the case

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01:07:20,390 --> 01:07:18,880
at all each explosion has to be

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01:07:21,670 --> 01:07:20,400
perfectly timed because what you're

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01:07:23,670 --> 01:07:21,680
basically doing

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01:07:25,270 --> 01:07:23,680
is you're engineering a collapse you

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01:07:27,349 --> 01:07:25,280
what they try to do is they try to

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01:07:29,510 --> 01:07:27,359
destroy the superstructure where the

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01:07:31,190 --> 01:07:29,520
load bearing structure is in the center

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01:07:32,789 --> 01:07:31,200
so that there's an implosion type of

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01:07:34,710 --> 01:07:32,799
effect and then they destroy the rest of

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01:07:37,029 --> 01:07:34,720
the building usually in some rotational

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01:07:38,789 --> 01:07:37,039
momentum so that it actually spins into

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01:07:40,870 --> 01:07:38,799
its own footprint

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01:07:42,630 --> 01:07:40,880
so and that that takes time it takes

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01:07:43,349 --> 01:07:42,640
serious amounts of planning this isn't

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01:07:44,470 --> 01:07:43,359
just

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01:07:46,549 --> 01:07:44,480
you know something you can throw

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01:07:48,390 --> 01:07:46,559
together in a few days so

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01:07:50,390 --> 01:07:48,400
i would suspect for

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01:07:52,069 --> 01:07:50,400
buildings as large as world trade center

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01:07:54,069 --> 01:07:52,079
one and two

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01:07:56,309 --> 01:07:54,079
the only way that i could imagine that

1630
01:07:59,109 --> 01:07:56,319
could happen is if they were in there

1631
01:08:00,950 --> 01:07:59,119
for potentially a year in advance or and

1632
01:08:03,109 --> 01:08:00,960
this is another theory that i've heard

1633
01:08:05,670 --> 01:08:03,119
that they had charges placed

1634
01:08:07,829 --> 01:08:05,680
and um this controlled demolition

1635
01:08:10,150 --> 01:08:07,839
infrastructure in place potentially

1636
01:08:11,510 --> 01:08:10,160
years in advance maybe it was even built

1637
01:08:13,670 --> 01:08:11,520
into the building when they started

1638
01:08:16,070 --> 01:08:13,680
construction

1639
01:08:17,430 --> 01:08:16,080
the uh

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01:08:26,229 --> 01:08:17,440
the

1641
01:08:28,229 --> 01:08:26,239
causing it to crash that's where i

1642
01:08:29,189 --> 01:08:28,239
scratched my head

1643
01:08:31,110 --> 01:08:29,199
and i

1644
01:08:33,189 --> 01:08:31,120
you know i look back historically had

1645
01:08:34,070 --> 01:08:33,199
this ever happened before and it turns

1646
01:08:36,709 --> 01:08:34,080
out

1647
01:08:39,269 --> 01:08:36,719
that it did it happened in manhattan

1648
01:08:42,789 --> 01:08:39,279
with the empire state building

1649
01:08:44,870 --> 01:08:42,799
uh uh uh i don't know if there's a b-25

1650
01:08:48,630 --> 01:08:44,880
mitchell or you know b-17 or something

1651
01:08:50,630 --> 01:08:48,640
but flew it crashed into the top of

1652
01:08:55,669 --> 01:08:50,640
the empire state building

1653
01:08:58,149 --> 01:08:55,679
nothing happened then um in milan italy

1654
01:09:00,470 --> 01:08:58,159
we had a plane that crashed in to i

1655
01:09:02,789 --> 01:09:00,480
believe it was a bank again

1656
01:09:04,550 --> 01:09:02,799
the tallest building in milan crashed

1657
01:09:07,669 --> 01:09:04,560
into the top of the bank

1658
01:09:09,430 --> 01:09:07,679
you know caught you know caused a fire

1659
01:09:11,269 --> 01:09:09,440
it didn't collapse

1660
01:09:13,669 --> 01:09:11,279
now was it twenty thousand gallons of

1661
01:09:15,669 --> 01:09:13,679
aviation fuel no was it that same

1662
01:09:17,990 --> 01:09:15,679
situation with the uh

1663
01:09:20,229 --> 01:09:18,000
with the world war two bomber uh you

1664
01:09:21,749 --> 01:09:20,239
know with the amounts of aviation fuel

1665
01:09:24,149 --> 01:09:21,759
and and stuff

1666
01:09:25,110 --> 01:09:24,159
the point is the buildings did not fall

1667
01:09:27,829 --> 01:09:25,120
down

1668
01:09:30,149 --> 01:09:27,839
and we have to look at that historically

1669
01:09:32,550 --> 01:09:30,159
there are other examples the world trade

1670
01:09:35,110 --> 01:09:32,560
centers aren't the only times that

1671
01:09:37,829 --> 01:09:35,120
this type of event occurred

1672
01:09:39,990 --> 01:09:37,839
but there is something else uh that i

1673
01:09:43,030 --> 01:09:40,000
want to back up and visit

1674
01:09:46,390 --> 01:09:43,040
which is the skill

1675
01:09:48,470 --> 01:09:46,400
of flying a plane into a building

1676
01:09:50,630 --> 01:09:48,480
yeah that's a glaring point that that

1677
01:09:51,990 --> 01:09:50,640
that's a big point now i don't know

1678
01:09:53,269 --> 01:09:52,000
about you

1679
01:09:56,390 --> 01:09:53,279
but i

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01:09:57,110 --> 01:09:56,400
had microsoft whatever they call it all

1681
01:10:00,630 --> 01:09:57,120
right

1682
01:10:01,590 --> 01:10:00,640
i had the the flight simulator i had all

1683
01:10:03,750 --> 01:10:01,600
right

1684
01:10:06,870 --> 01:10:03,760
yes yes i had all of them

1685
01:10:07,590 --> 01:10:06,880
uh i had uh different versions of it and

1686
01:10:45,510 --> 01:10:07,600
i

1687
01:10:46,950 --> 01:10:45,520
for somebody that has never flown a jet

1688
01:10:52,390 --> 01:10:46,960
to

1689
01:10:55,110 --> 01:10:52,400
the world trade center we haven't even

1690
01:10:56,470 --> 01:10:55,120
talked about the pentagon yet

1691
01:10:58,709 --> 01:10:56,480
right right

1692
01:11:00,310 --> 01:10:58,719
yeah well i i mean before i answer that

1693
01:11:02,390 --> 01:11:00,320
i wanted to actually say something to

1694
01:11:04,790 --> 01:11:02,400
what you said earlier which is that this

1695
01:11:07,669 --> 01:11:04,800
the fuel if you take jet fuel and you

1696
01:11:09,030 --> 01:11:07,679
burn it it doesn't burn hot enough to

1697
01:11:11,430 --> 01:11:09,040
cause structural

1698
01:11:13,030 --> 01:11:11,440
deformations and steel and what we saw

1699
01:11:15,189 --> 01:11:13,040
in 911 was

1700
01:11:16,790 --> 01:11:15,199
liquid metal that was one of the things

1701
01:11:19,189 --> 01:11:16,800
that was reported so the temperature

1702
01:11:21,669 --> 01:11:19,199
just the temperature differential alone

1703
01:11:23,830 --> 01:11:21,679
between what steel can do when it's

1704
01:11:25,669 --> 01:11:23,840
exposed to jet fuel

1705
01:11:27,910 --> 01:11:25,679
suggests that there is something else

1706
01:11:30,149 --> 01:11:27,920
happening there so plain jet fuel did

1707
01:11:32,470 --> 01:11:30,159
not cause that the structural integrity

1708
01:11:34,470 --> 01:11:32,480
of the water trade center to collapse

1709
01:11:35,430 --> 01:11:34,480
that being said

1710
01:11:37,270 --> 01:11:35,440
i mean

1711
01:11:39,669 --> 01:11:37,280
i think the the total amount of time

1712
01:11:42,790 --> 01:11:39,679
that these alleged terrorists had

1713
01:11:45,270 --> 01:11:42,800
to to train up on how to fly an airplane

1714
01:11:46,310 --> 01:11:45,280
with doing some incredible maneuvers was

1715
01:11:48,390 --> 01:11:46,320
maybe

1716
01:11:49,830 --> 01:11:48,400
i want to say a couple weeks or a month

1717
01:11:52,229 --> 01:11:49,840
these guys supposedly went and trained

1718
01:11:53,910 --> 01:11:52,239
up on this stuff right

1719
01:11:57,510 --> 01:11:53,920
so yeah i mean i played those flight

1720
01:12:00,310 --> 01:11:57,520
simulators too man i i i had my old mac

1721
01:12:01,750 --> 01:12:00,320
i think it was a 2c

1722
01:12:03,830 --> 01:12:01,760
i need to

1723
01:12:05,830 --> 01:12:03,840
play my flight simulator i played red

1724
01:12:07,830 --> 01:12:05,840
baron and all these ones and

1725
01:12:10,630 --> 01:12:07,840
man you're right it was impossible to do

1726
01:12:11,430 --> 01:12:10,640
anything mate you know super fancy in

1727
01:12:13,030 --> 01:12:11,440
that

1728
01:12:14,470 --> 01:12:13,040
and they based these flight simulators

1729
01:12:16,870 --> 01:12:14,480
off of the same simulators that the

1730
01:12:18,870 --> 01:12:16,880
military used to train their pilots so

1731
01:12:21,110 --> 01:12:18,880
but it the fact that somebody could

1732
01:12:23,830 --> 01:12:21,120
potentially take this airplane and

1733
01:12:26,310 --> 01:12:23,840
perform muscles

1734
01:12:28,070 --> 01:12:26,320
and perfectly glide that airplane into

1735
01:12:29,590 --> 01:12:28,080
this building which is a very narrow

1736
01:12:32,790 --> 01:12:29,600
target i mean when you're flying an

1737
01:12:35,110 --> 01:12:32,800
airplane size i'd imagine you're the the

1738
01:12:37,110 --> 01:12:35,120
amount of leeway you have if you

1739
01:12:39,510 --> 01:12:37,120
actually accidentally make a mistake and

1740
01:12:42,229 --> 01:12:39,520
then you're off of course is really tiny

1741
01:12:44,390 --> 01:12:42,239
so i i would say it's astronomical that

1742
01:12:46,550 --> 01:12:44,400
these guys manage to train themselves in

1743
01:12:48,310 --> 01:12:46,560
a couple weeks and then fly these planes

1744
01:12:53,430 --> 01:12:48,320
into the building

1745
01:12:54,709 --> 01:12:53,440
the next theory that i want to visit

1746
01:12:58,870 --> 01:12:54,719
is the

1747
01:13:01,830 --> 01:12:58,880
holographic plane that that they weren't

1748
01:13:04,950 --> 01:13:01,840
real or they were projections in the sky

1749
01:13:06,630 --> 01:13:04,960
for all of manhattan to see

1750
01:13:09,110 --> 01:13:06,640
let's let's talk about that for a second

1751
01:13:10,470 --> 01:13:09,120
is as strange as that is to put on the

1752
01:13:13,350 --> 01:13:10,480
table

1753
01:13:15,510 --> 01:13:13,360
uh when this theory uh which is still

1754
01:13:18,149 --> 01:13:15,520
alive out there uh what do you think

1755
01:13:19,830 --> 01:13:18,159
about that possibility

1756
01:13:21,669 --> 01:13:19,840
well it's an interesting theory i mean

1757
01:13:23,590 --> 01:13:21,679
it obviously appeals to

1758
01:13:25,350 --> 01:13:23,600
the folks who weren't physically

1759
01:13:26,950 --> 01:13:25,360
you know from a discernment an

1760
01:13:29,030 --> 01:13:26,960
epistemological perspective when you're

1761
01:13:32,310 --> 01:13:29,040
not actually at an event to witness

1762
01:13:34,390 --> 01:13:32,320
something all you can go off of whatever

1763
01:13:36,149 --> 01:13:34,400
evidence you have available and

1764
01:13:37,990 --> 01:13:36,159
a lot of the evidence we have to say

1765
01:13:40,070 --> 01:13:38,000
that the event even happens is video

1766
01:13:41,510 --> 01:13:40,080
footage for most people so

1767
01:13:42,870 --> 01:13:41,520
i think it's a compelling theory for a

1768
01:13:44,470 --> 01:13:42,880
lot of people because you know they

1769
01:13:48,070 --> 01:13:44,480
weren't physically there

1770
01:13:50,229 --> 01:13:48,080
but in my estimation i would say that

1771
01:13:53,110 --> 01:13:50,239
i'm not inclined to i don't put a lot of

1772
01:13:55,510 --> 01:13:53,120
faith into that theory because

1773
01:13:58,149 --> 01:13:55,520
we have reports of actual witnesses on

1774
01:14:00,709 --> 01:13:58,159
the scene who saw the build crash into

1775
01:14:03,110 --> 01:14:00,719
it who heard the explosions you know who

1776
01:14:05,510 --> 01:14:03,120
saw debris things like this so in order

1777
01:14:07,990 --> 01:14:05,520
for that holographic plane theory to be

1778
01:14:09,750 --> 01:14:08,000
valid we have to figure out a way to

1779
01:14:12,070 --> 01:14:09,760
explain all the first-hand witness

1780
01:14:13,830 --> 01:14:12,080
testimony the cell phone footage things

1781
01:14:15,189 --> 01:14:13,840
like this or camera footage there

1782
01:14:17,110 --> 01:14:15,199
weren't many cell phones back then but

1783
01:14:19,030 --> 01:14:17,120
camera footage of the event

1784
01:14:21,750 --> 01:14:19,040
so i think that that one's probably

1785
01:14:23,990 --> 01:14:21,760
unlikely but uh what's your take on it

1786
01:14:26,390 --> 01:14:24,000
well um the

1787
01:14:28,709 --> 01:14:26,400
when we when we start to jump into this

1788
01:14:31,350 --> 01:14:28,719
part of it i think there was an awful

1789
01:14:32,550 --> 01:14:31,360
lot of video that is is pretty

1790
01:14:35,590 --> 01:14:32,560
compelling

1791
01:14:40,470 --> 01:14:35,600
and then when you go and

1792
01:14:42,790 --> 01:14:40,480
uh there is a very famous uh video that

1793
01:14:46,950 --> 01:14:42,800
i've watched over and over again

1794
01:14:50,470 --> 01:14:46,960
uh showing a wing disappear

1795
01:14:51,830 --> 01:14:50,480
behind this building right and and

1796
01:14:55,910 --> 01:14:51,840
yeah you've seen it

1797
01:14:59,030 --> 01:14:55,920
so i went and and and pulled up uh all

1798
01:15:00,550 --> 01:14:59,040
of the historic images of the world

1799
01:15:02,229 --> 01:15:00,560
trade center

1800
01:15:05,430 --> 01:15:02,239
and i

1801
01:15:06,950 --> 01:15:05,440
looked at and all the streets and and

1802
01:15:09,189 --> 01:15:06,960
everything you know i plotted everything

1803
01:15:12,550 --> 01:15:09,199
out and i found that building and the

1804
01:15:14,470 --> 01:15:12,560
building was not behind

1805
01:15:17,350 --> 01:15:14,480
the world trade center it there's a

1806
01:15:19,110 --> 01:15:17,360
section of it where it kind of looks

1807
01:15:21,110 --> 01:15:19,120
like it's off in the distance and then

1808
01:15:23,430 --> 01:15:21,120
of course then how could the the wing

1809
01:15:26,070 --> 01:15:23,440
disappear well uh

1810
01:15:29,510 --> 01:15:26,080
i went and looked myself and that

1811
01:15:30,390 --> 01:15:29,520
building is indeed in the foreground

1812
01:15:33,750 --> 01:15:30,400
and

1813
01:15:35,990 --> 01:15:33,760
uh that that stopped it in its tracks

1814
01:15:37,990 --> 01:15:36,000
for me but yet

1815
01:15:38,950 --> 01:15:38,000
there are those out there that want to

1816
01:15:41,910 --> 01:15:38,960
say

1817
01:15:45,430 --> 01:15:41,920
that you know all of this video was

1818
01:15:47,990 --> 01:15:45,440
manipulated and it was cgi and it's cgi

1819
01:15:48,950 --> 01:15:48,000
artifacts in the film and and in the

1820
01:15:52,790 --> 01:15:48,960
video

1821
01:15:53,830 --> 01:15:52,800
but uh that part of it kind of

1822
01:15:56,709 --> 01:15:53,840
uh

1823
01:15:58,550 --> 01:15:56,719
you know kills that part of of of these

1824
01:15:59,830 --> 01:15:58,560
conspiracy theories i'm not here to

1825
01:16:01,830 --> 01:15:59,840
debunk

1826
01:16:03,830 --> 01:16:01,840
i'm trying to

1827
01:16:05,350 --> 01:16:03,840
uh figure this out just like everybody

1828
01:16:08,470 --> 01:16:05,360
else and if you're gonna say that this

1829
01:16:10,950 --> 01:16:08,480
video did definitively says

1830
01:16:12,470 --> 01:16:10,960
this when clearly that building is not

1831
01:16:14,070 --> 01:16:12,480
in the background it is in the

1832
01:16:17,030 --> 01:16:14,080
foreground

1833
01:16:18,310 --> 01:16:17,040
then it it it ruins

1834
01:16:20,790 --> 01:16:18,320
uh

1835
01:16:23,030 --> 01:16:20,800
other ideas that may be put out there

1836
01:16:24,550 --> 01:16:23,040
because you are suggesting something

1837
01:16:27,830 --> 01:16:24,560
that isn't real

1838
01:16:29,830 --> 01:16:27,840
and it it it kills the other uh uh

1839
01:16:32,070 --> 01:16:29,840
theories that were able to get get out

1840
01:16:34,630 --> 01:16:32,080
there and put on the table

1841
01:16:36,550 --> 01:16:34,640
well exactly i mean but you know when

1842
01:16:38,390 --> 01:16:36,560
when you think about the science of

1843
01:16:40,709 --> 01:16:38,400
evaluating a theory you know a theory is

1844
01:16:42,870 --> 01:16:40,719
basically a story it's an explanation do

1845
01:16:45,030 --> 01:16:42,880
you got all these phenomena happening so

1846
01:16:46,709 --> 01:16:45,040
you need an explanation to explain how

1847
01:16:48,950 --> 01:16:46,719
all these phenomena work together and as

1848
01:16:50,310 --> 01:16:48,960
soon as there's a discrepancy then you

1849
01:16:52,310 --> 01:16:50,320
know you have to re-examine the theory

1850
01:16:53,590 --> 01:16:52,320
and you know that particular video i

1851
01:16:55,189 --> 01:16:53,600
actually remember seeing that video

1852
01:16:56,229 --> 01:16:55,199
footage that was one when i was looking

1853
01:16:58,630 --> 01:16:56,239
through that

1854
01:17:01,270 --> 01:16:58,640
that aspect of of the explanation you

1855
01:17:02,870 --> 01:17:01,280
know is this a series of holographic

1856
01:17:04,630 --> 01:17:02,880
projections or

1857
01:17:06,790 --> 01:17:04,640
doctor footage i remember seeing that

1858
01:17:08,310 --> 01:17:06,800
video i'm like well that looks pretty

1859
01:17:10,550 --> 01:17:08,320
and then i happened to see a second

1860
01:17:13,189 --> 01:17:10,560
follow-up video of a guy doing exactly

1861
01:17:14,630 --> 01:17:13,199
what you said who had a better take and

1862
01:17:16,149 --> 01:17:14,640
understanding of where these buildings

1863
01:17:18,310 --> 01:17:16,159
were actually placed then you realize

1864
01:17:20,470 --> 01:17:18,320
that the the theory itself was based on

1865
01:17:22,149 --> 01:17:20,480
a fallacious point which is that this

1866
01:17:24,070 --> 01:17:22,159
building was in the foreground was

1867
01:17:26,310 --> 01:17:24,080
actually the background so

1868
01:17:28,070 --> 01:17:26,320
you know when we consider these theories

1869
01:17:30,470 --> 01:17:28,080
it's not that we're trying to

1870
01:17:32,630 --> 01:17:30,480
to railroad all of them except for the

1871
01:17:34,310 --> 01:17:32,640
our pet theory we're more so just

1872
01:17:36,950 --> 01:17:34,320
throwing out ideas throwing out

1873
01:17:38,550 --> 01:17:36,960
possibilities and discussing how likely

1874
01:17:39,270 --> 01:17:38,560
one is versus another it doesn't mean

1875
01:17:40,790 --> 01:17:39,280
we're

1876
01:17:42,149 --> 01:17:40,800
in a black and white mode of thinking

1877
01:17:43,990 --> 01:17:42,159
we're trying to say one is definitely

1878
01:17:46,390 --> 01:17:44,000
right when all the rest is wrong well

1879
01:17:48,470 --> 01:17:46,400
and then we have uh the other part when

1880
01:17:51,110 --> 01:17:48,480
we talk about these planes or holograms

1881
01:17:52,229 --> 01:17:51,120
or you know holographic projections

1882
01:18:27,590 --> 01:17:52,239
the

1883
01:18:29,510 --> 01:18:27,600
right exactly yeah so i mean you if you

1884
01:18:32,070 --> 01:18:29,520
add up all of the evidence that's

1885
01:18:34,149 --> 01:18:32,080
available you know the the video footage

1886
01:18:35,590 --> 01:18:34,159
the debris the hole in the side of the

1887
01:18:37,750 --> 01:18:35,600
building you know the sound of the

1888
01:18:39,430 --> 01:18:37,760
building or the plane living building

1889
01:18:40,550 --> 01:18:39,440
then it really starts to call into

1890
01:18:42,870 --> 01:18:40,560
question that

1891
01:18:45,030 --> 01:18:42,880
these are holographic projections unless

1892
01:18:47,270 --> 01:18:45,040
they had speakers that were perfectly

1893
01:18:49,750 --> 01:18:47,280
calibrated and tuned so that that when

1894
01:18:52,709 --> 01:18:49,760
this projection hit the building

1895
01:18:54,550 --> 01:18:52,719
the sound emitted from that place as if

1896
01:18:56,149 --> 01:18:54,560
it had actually been a genuine explosion

1897
01:18:58,149 --> 01:18:56,159
but i mean this is really difficult

1898
01:19:00,390 --> 01:18:58,159
stuff to pull off so it's certainly

1899
01:19:02,630 --> 01:19:00,400
possible but i think given all the other

1900
01:19:05,189 --> 01:19:02,640
available evidence it really this one is

1901
01:19:08,390 --> 01:19:05,199
less likely of a possibility i would say

1902
01:19:11,910 --> 01:19:08,400
now moving on as we talk about knowing

1903
01:19:14,630 --> 01:19:11,920
this in advance and having this uh being

1904
01:19:16,390 --> 01:19:14,640
a huge conspiracy but there are a lot of

1905
01:19:17,750 --> 01:19:16,400
people involved inside and outside of

1906
01:19:20,229 --> 01:19:17,760
the united states

1907
01:19:24,070 --> 01:19:20,239
and the media being involved

1908
01:19:27,830 --> 01:19:24,080
is the question of news reports and the

1909
01:19:30,790 --> 01:19:27,840
timing of them going down on tv versus

1910
01:19:32,470 --> 01:19:30,800
what people were actually seeing outside

1911
01:19:34,550 --> 01:19:32,480
in real time

1912
01:19:38,870 --> 01:19:34,560
for example

1913
01:19:41,430 --> 01:19:38,880
uh the actor dan fogler uh

1914
01:19:45,430 --> 01:19:41,440
who was a guest on this show

1915
01:19:48,310 --> 01:19:45,440
uh star of don peyote and uh of the uh

1916
01:19:50,229 --> 01:19:48,320
the ping pong movie too as well i'll

1917
01:19:51,110 --> 01:19:50,239
think of the name of that here in just a

1918
01:19:52,310 --> 01:19:51,120
second

1919
01:19:56,790 --> 01:19:52,320
but he was

1920
01:19:57,590 --> 01:19:56,800
he was here and he's really into

1921
01:20:00,870 --> 01:19:57,600
uh

1922
01:20:02,830 --> 01:20:00,880
conspiracy theory and and all of this

1923
01:20:05,750 --> 01:20:02,840
and it was

1924
01:20:08,470 --> 01:20:05,760
started and this was

1925
01:20:10,229 --> 01:20:08,480
what he said on this program was started

1926
01:20:12,629 --> 01:20:10,239
on september 11

1927
01:20:15,350 --> 01:20:12,639
2001 because

1928
01:20:16,870 --> 01:20:15,360
he was in his apartment

1929
01:20:19,750 --> 01:20:16,880
in new york

1930
01:20:21,430 --> 01:20:19,760
911 is going down he can see the world

1931
01:20:25,590 --> 01:20:21,440
trade centers outside

1932
01:20:27,030 --> 01:20:25,600
and then he hears uh a reporter say on

1933
01:20:28,070 --> 01:20:27,040
tv

1934
01:20:30,550 --> 01:20:28,080
that

1935
01:20:32,470 --> 01:20:30,560
one of the buildings just fell down

1936
01:20:34,310 --> 01:20:32,480
and he walks out

1937
01:20:35,830 --> 01:20:34,320
and he's looking and the buildings are

1938
01:20:37,350 --> 01:20:35,840
still there

1939
01:20:41,030 --> 01:20:37,360
wow so

1940
01:20:43,910 --> 01:20:41,040
that that for him was the start of his

1941
01:20:46,310 --> 01:20:43,920
travel down this road

1942
01:20:48,790 --> 01:20:46,320
because he knew what he was hearing on

1943
01:20:49,990 --> 01:20:48,800
tv versus what he was seeing with his

1944
01:20:52,390 --> 01:20:50,000
own eyes

1945
01:20:55,350 --> 01:20:52,400
were two different things he still

1946
01:20:57,669 --> 01:20:55,360
doesn't understand how how that happened

1947
01:21:00,950 --> 01:20:57,679
but he is convinced that

1948
01:21:03,350 --> 01:21:00,960
he was told on tv that one of the world

1949
01:21:06,070 --> 01:21:03,360
trade centers just fell so he went

1950
01:21:07,350 --> 01:21:06,080
outside went out to look out his window

1951
01:21:10,950 --> 01:21:07,360
to see it

1952
01:21:12,790 --> 01:21:10,960
and the building was still there

1953
01:21:13,510 --> 01:21:12,800
right so how do you explain that and you

1954
01:21:16,390 --> 01:21:13,520
know

1955
01:21:18,470 --> 01:21:16,400
obviously in a situation like that

1956
01:21:19,590 --> 01:21:18,480
the media is tipped off they know what's

1957
01:21:20,870 --> 01:21:19,600
going to happen they know that the

1958
01:21:22,149 --> 01:21:20,880
buildings are going to collapse i mean

1959
01:21:23,830 --> 01:21:22,159
i'm sure

1960
01:21:25,430 --> 01:21:23,840
another example that goes in tandem with

1961
01:21:27,750 --> 01:21:25,440
the one you just mentioned

1962
01:21:29,430 --> 01:21:27,760
and i hadn't heard of that one

1963
01:21:32,629 --> 01:21:29,440
is i'm sure everybody remembers the

1964
01:21:34,950 --> 01:21:32,639
footage of the bbc reporter

1965
01:21:37,270 --> 01:21:34,960
saying that world trade center uh trade

1966
01:21:39,430 --> 01:21:37,280
center seven had just collapsed but in

1967
01:21:41,990 --> 01:21:39,440
the background is the world trade center

1968
01:21:44,550 --> 01:21:42,000
building uncollapsed it's still standing

1969
01:21:46,790 --> 01:21:44,560
so there's another glaring example of

1970
01:21:48,470 --> 01:21:46,800
the media somehow knowing before the

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01:21:49,830 --> 01:21:48,480
rest of us before these even events even

1972
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happen before the building's going to

1973
01:21:52,629 --> 01:21:51,600
collapse that these buildings are going

1974
01:21:54,550 --> 01:21:52,639
to collapse

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01:21:57,030 --> 01:21:54,560
so what's going on there

1976
01:21:58,709 --> 01:21:57,040
and the uh i'm watching twitter right

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01:22:01,110 --> 01:21:58,719
now because everybody is talking about

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01:22:02,709 --> 01:22:01,120
that and the bbc and the video which i

1979
01:22:04,390 --> 01:22:02,719
have the link here

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i don't know if i can actually play it

1981
01:22:08,310 --> 01:22:06,400
on the show without you know being shut

1982
01:22:10,470 --> 01:22:08,320
down but i'm gonna check it out uh

1983
01:22:12,629 --> 01:22:10,480
during the break and maybe we'll play

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01:22:15,510 --> 01:22:12,639
the audio uh from it

1985
01:22:16,950 --> 01:22:15,520
but everybody is aware of that bbc

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01:22:19,910 --> 01:22:16,960
footage

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01:22:23,030 --> 01:22:19,920
why is it justin that

1988
01:22:24,470 --> 01:22:23,040
moore isn't made of that today

1989
01:22:29,110 --> 01:22:24,480
how is

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01:22:30,390 --> 01:22:29,120
the bbc and certainly

1991
01:22:32,870 --> 01:22:30,400
washington

1992
01:22:35,910 --> 01:22:32,880
uh when this is an obvious point that is

1993
01:22:40,950 --> 01:22:38,550
well i mean that in order to answer that

1994
01:22:43,189 --> 01:22:40,960
question we have to think about

1995
01:22:45,430 --> 01:22:43,199
how people come to know what they

1996
01:22:47,270 --> 01:22:45,440
believe and because of the destruction

1997
01:22:48,709 --> 01:22:47,280
of critical thinking and

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01:22:51,830 --> 01:22:48,719
people really understanding their

1999
01:22:54,149 --> 01:22:51,840
beliefs we have this kind of like

2000
01:22:56,390 --> 01:22:54,159
you know mass mind control social

2001
01:22:58,629 --> 01:22:56,400
indoctrination program so most people

2002
01:23:01,189 --> 01:22:58,639
believe things i actually just a friend

2003
01:23:04,390 --> 01:23:01,199
of mine read a book about persuasion

2004
01:23:06,629 --> 01:23:04,400
and he said that if seven people tell

2005
01:23:09,030 --> 01:23:06,639
you the same fact and these seven people

2006
01:23:11,750 --> 01:23:09,040
don't seem to be connected to each other

2007
01:23:13,430 --> 01:23:11,760
then subconsciously it's highly likely

2008
01:23:16,310 --> 01:23:13,440
you will start to believe

2009
01:23:18,790 --> 01:23:16,320
whatever fact that is as being true

2010
01:23:21,350 --> 01:23:18,800
so we have a situation where most people

2011
01:23:22,790 --> 01:23:21,360
don't really know why they believe

2012
01:23:24,470 --> 01:23:22,800
things to be true especially when it

2013
01:23:26,390 --> 01:23:24,480
comes from the news how many people fact

2014
01:23:27,590 --> 01:23:26,400
check news stories you know not probably

2015
01:23:29,990 --> 01:23:27,600
not that many

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01:23:32,149 --> 01:23:30,000
so it's a situation i i would say where

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01:23:34,470 --> 01:23:32,159
the vast majority of the population

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01:23:36,470 --> 01:23:34,480
believes something is true then because

2019
01:23:38,149 --> 01:23:36,480
a lot of other people believe it then

2020
01:23:40,550 --> 01:23:38,159
they just buy into it and then nobody

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01:23:41,910 --> 01:23:40,560
ever fact checks nobody asks questions

2022
01:23:43,750 --> 01:23:41,920
because i mean the other aspects of it

2023
01:23:45,510 --> 01:23:43,760
too is that you start asking questions

2024
01:23:47,830 --> 01:23:45,520
now you start to label yourself as an

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01:23:49,830 --> 01:23:47,840
outsider and nobody wants to be cast out

2026
01:23:51,669 --> 01:23:49,840
of whatever their social group is so

2027
01:23:53,270 --> 01:23:51,679
there's a big sociological and

2028
01:23:54,229 --> 01:23:53,280
psychological component to that i feel

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01:23:56,470 --> 01:23:54,239
like

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01:23:58,229 --> 01:23:56,480
the the uh we're going to head towards a

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01:24:00,070 --> 01:23:58,239
break right here

2032
01:24:02,070 --> 01:24:00,080
but uh the

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01:24:05,270 --> 01:24:02,080
the foreknowledge

2034
01:24:06,950 --> 01:24:05,280
uh part of 911

2035
01:24:08,790 --> 01:24:06,960
is is well documented we're going to

2036
01:24:10,790 --> 01:24:08,800
visit that when we come back

2037
01:24:13,430 --> 01:24:10,800
we have the

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01:24:16,470 --> 01:24:13,440
oil and petroleum issue

2039
01:24:19,270 --> 01:24:16,480
that is is right there in front of us

2040
01:24:20,950 --> 01:24:19,280
we have uh the fact that the buildings

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01:24:22,790 --> 01:24:20,960
fell down uh

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01:24:26,070 --> 01:24:22,800
the way that they did

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01:24:27,830 --> 01:24:26,080
without really any explanation of that

2044
01:24:30,310 --> 01:24:27,840
and the engineering behind it that would

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01:24:32,790 --> 01:24:30,320
allow this type of collapse we have that

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01:24:35,590 --> 01:24:32,800
we have the passport we have

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01:24:38,629 --> 01:24:35,600
bin laden's family being flown out of

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01:24:40,790 --> 01:24:38,639
the country we have a long list

2049
01:24:43,270 --> 01:24:40,800
of things here that are right out there

2050
01:24:46,229 --> 01:24:43,280
in front of us but yet i don't think

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01:24:49,110 --> 01:24:46,239
there is anybody in the mainstream

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01:24:51,350 --> 01:24:49,120
that is uh brave enough

2053
01:24:53,030 --> 01:24:51,360
to step up and question this we need

2054
01:24:56,629 --> 01:24:53,040
shows like this

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01:25:00,870 --> 01:24:56,639
to keep the story alive why is that

2056
01:25:04,149 --> 01:25:00,880
justin why why won't uh a brave

2057
01:25:07,990 --> 01:25:04,159
mainstream journalist step up and and

2058
01:25:09,990 --> 01:25:08,000
ask the questions that need to be asked

2059
01:25:12,310 --> 01:25:10,000
well i'm certainly glad that you ask him

2060
01:25:13,750 --> 01:25:12,320
and you know praise be that we have an

2061
01:25:15,750 --> 01:25:13,760
outlet like this where we can have these

2062
01:25:16,870 --> 01:25:15,760
frank and open discussions because it's

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01:25:18,950 --> 01:25:16,880
essential

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01:25:20,790 --> 01:25:18,960
i mean i i would say that

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01:25:24,070 --> 01:25:20,800
we're we're living in a time where the

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01:25:26,310 --> 01:25:24,080
media is not really here to report the

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01:25:27,830 --> 01:25:26,320
facts or engage us in meaningful

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01:25:30,070 --> 01:25:27,840
discussion about what's happening in our

2069
01:25:31,590 --> 01:25:30,080
reality i mean i think that's a an

2070
01:25:33,110 --> 01:25:31,600
obvious point for most people who are

2071
01:25:35,189 --> 01:25:33,120
awake is that the media is here to

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01:25:36,709 --> 01:25:35,199
control our reality

2073
01:25:38,550 --> 01:25:36,719
it's an augmented

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01:25:41,350 --> 01:25:38,560
or manipulated form of reality

2075
01:25:43,669 --> 01:25:41,360
manipulated narrative and you know to go

2076
01:25:45,830 --> 01:25:43,679
against that to question that is it

2077
01:25:47,830 --> 01:25:45,840
means to be excommunicated i mean look

2078
01:25:49,590 --> 01:25:47,840
at ben swann the guy started reporting

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01:25:51,510 --> 01:25:49,600
on a whole bunch of things he got

2080
01:25:53,510 --> 01:25:51,520
censored you know there's various other

2081
01:25:54,390 --> 01:25:53,520
reporters who've kind of stepped out of

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01:25:57,590 --> 01:25:54,400
line

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01:25:59,189 --> 01:25:57,600
and they end up getting censored so

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01:26:02,149 --> 01:25:59,199
these guys have a death grip on the

2085
01:26:04,229 --> 01:26:02,159
media and it's incredibly important

2086
01:26:06,229 --> 01:26:04,239
they that they have that because

2087
01:26:07,990 --> 01:26:06,239
everybody's basis for behaving in the

2088
01:26:09,990 --> 01:26:08,000
world is all dependent on what they

2089
01:26:10,950 --> 01:26:10,000
think is real so if you can control a

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01:26:12,709 --> 01:26:10,960
person's

2091
01:26:14,390 --> 01:26:12,719
sense of reality then you can basically

2092
01:26:16,629 --> 01:26:14,400
control a person and that's why the

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01:26:17,910 --> 01:26:16,639
media is so important to maintain

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01:26:19,910 --> 01:26:17,920
control of

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01:26:23,830 --> 01:26:19,920
when we come back we're going to talk

2096
01:26:25,750 --> 01:26:23,840
about the pentagon and again

2097
01:26:28,790 --> 01:26:25,760
one of the

2098
01:26:29,669 --> 01:26:28,800
strangest when we look at everything

2099
01:26:32,790 --> 01:26:29,679
that

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01:26:35,270 --> 01:26:32,800
uh has been presented to us uh what we

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01:26:37,270 --> 01:26:35,280
are supposed to accept is true

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01:26:38,550 --> 01:26:37,280
and we look at all of the other evidence

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01:26:41,990 --> 01:26:38,560
around it

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01:26:45,830 --> 01:26:42,000
it is a tough one to to swallow and

2105
01:26:47,430 --> 01:26:45,840
digest i i can't i find it difficult i i

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01:26:49,830 --> 01:26:47,440
really do we're gonna discuss that when

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01:26:52,550 --> 01:26:49,840
we come back our guest tonight justin

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deschamps this show is dedicated

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to jim mars it's fade to black i'm

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today is september 11th and we are

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discussing every angle

2200
01:32:08,390 --> 01:32:04,000
of what happened on that day in 2001 and

2201
01:32:10,310 --> 01:32:08,400
um i have the video up here uh justin of

2202
01:32:12,629 --> 01:32:10,320
uh the bbc

2203
01:32:14,229 --> 01:32:12,639
and i'm gonna i'm gonna play it i don't

2204
01:32:16,870 --> 01:32:14,239
know exactly what's gonna happen i

2205
01:32:19,669 --> 01:32:16,880
haven't seen this in advance but uh

2206
01:32:22,470 --> 01:32:19,679
let's uh check this out

2207
01:32:23,830 --> 01:32:22,480
now more on the latest building collapse

2208
01:32:25,510 --> 01:32:23,840
in new york you might have heard a few

2209
01:32:28,070 --> 01:32:25,520
moments ago i was talking about the

2210
01:32:29,830 --> 01:32:28,080
salomon brothers building collapsing and

2211
01:32:32,310 --> 01:32:29,840
indeed it has it seems that this was not

2212
01:32:35,430 --> 01:32:32,320
a result of a new attack it was because

2213
01:32:36,790 --> 01:32:35,440
the building had been weakened uh during

2214
01:32:38,870 --> 01:32:36,800
this morning's attacks we'll probably

2215
01:32:41,189 --> 01:32:38,880
find out more now about that from our

2216
01:32:43,189 --> 01:32:41,199
correspondent james stanley jane what

2217
01:32:46,390 --> 01:32:43,199
more can you tell us about the salomon

2218
01:32:48,550 --> 01:32:46,400
brothers building and its collapse

2219
01:32:50,870 --> 01:32:48,560
well only really what you already know

2220
01:32:53,830 --> 01:32:50,880
details are very very sketchy as you can

2221
01:32:55,750 --> 01:32:53,840
see behind me the uh trade center

2222
01:32:58,950 --> 01:32:55,760
appears to be still burning we see these

2223
01:33:01,910 --> 01:32:58,960
huge clouds of smoke and ash and we know

2224
01:33:04,709 --> 01:33:01,920
that behind that there's an empty piece

2225
01:33:07,350 --> 01:33:04,719
of what was a very familiar new york

2226
01:33:08,470 --> 01:33:07,360
skyline a symbol of the financial

2227
01:33:10,149 --> 01:33:08,480
prosperity

2228
01:33:12,870 --> 01:33:10,159
of this city but

2229
01:33:15,669 --> 01:33:12,880
completely disappeared now and new york

2230
01:33:17,590 --> 01:33:15,679
is still unable to take on board what

2231
01:33:19,669 --> 01:33:17,600
has happened to them today

2232
01:33:21,590 --> 01:33:19,679
presumably there were very few people in

2233
01:33:23,990 --> 01:33:21,600
the salomon building when it collapsed i

2234
01:33:28,149 --> 01:33:24,000
mean there were i suppose fears of

2235
01:33:30,629 --> 01:33:29,590
that's what you were right

2236
01:33:33,910 --> 01:33:30,639
what do you think

2237
01:33:34,870 --> 01:33:33,920
she's it's it's standing behind her

2238
01:33:39,110 --> 01:33:34,880
now

2239
01:33:43,350 --> 01:33:40,629
many of us when we heard the news

2240
01:33:44,070 --> 01:33:43,360
perhaps on the radio earlier today were

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01:33:47,189 --> 01:33:44,080
uh

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01:33:49,510 --> 01:33:47,199
completely flabbergasted by it and

2243
01:33:51,350 --> 01:33:49,520
okay so i'm i'm gonna stop this right

2244
01:33:52,709 --> 01:33:51,360
here

2245
01:33:57,430 --> 01:33:52,719
the uh

2246
01:34:00,310 --> 01:33:57,440
the reporter uh she steps away to show

2247
01:34:02,870 --> 01:34:00,320
where uh the north and south towers were

2248
01:34:06,229 --> 01:34:02,880
behind her right she steps away and

2249
01:34:10,950 --> 01:34:06,239
there is uh wtt 7

2250
01:34:12,229 --> 01:34:10,960
uh wtc 7 is clearly standing right there

2251
01:34:15,350 --> 01:34:12,239
as

2252
01:34:17,750 --> 01:34:15,360
now

2253
01:34:19,510 --> 01:34:17,760
uh without breaking this down and how

2254
01:34:22,629 --> 01:34:19,520
this possibly

2255
01:34:25,270 --> 01:34:22,639
could be maybe debunked or how

2256
01:34:27,990 --> 01:34:25,280
uh i'm not so sure

2257
01:34:31,590 --> 01:34:28,000
by looking at this video

2258
01:34:33,590 --> 01:34:31,600
um that it can be debunked

2259
01:34:36,149 --> 01:34:33,600
right they just reported that the

2260
01:34:37,750 --> 01:34:36,159
building had fallen they cut to a live

2261
01:34:40,070 --> 01:34:37,760
report with her

2262
01:34:44,830 --> 01:34:40,080
and she backs away to show the

2263
01:34:49,350 --> 01:34:44,840
background and there it is wtt's

2264
01:34:51,669 --> 01:34:49,360
wtc7 is is clearly standing right there

2265
01:34:54,149 --> 01:34:51,679
now is this evidence

2266
01:34:56,950 --> 01:34:54,159
of what they were told to report in

2267
01:34:59,109 --> 01:34:56,960
advance and that the building was going

2268
01:35:02,070 --> 01:34:59,119
to come down and they just messed up and

2269
01:35:03,910 --> 01:35:02,080
reported too soon

2270
01:35:07,590 --> 01:35:03,920
i i think that's probably a glaring

2271
01:35:09,189 --> 01:35:07,600
example i mean we we know already um

2272
01:35:11,270 --> 01:35:09,199
that you know the same type of

2273
01:35:13,109 --> 01:35:11,280
narratives and scripts are handed out to

2274
01:35:14,870 --> 01:35:13,119
local media outlets so there's a bunch

2275
01:35:16,870 --> 01:35:14,880
of videos out there about that people

2276
01:35:18,629 --> 01:35:16,880
just literally reading off the script so

2277
01:35:19,830 --> 01:35:18,639
what probably happened is they got

2278
01:35:21,590 --> 01:35:19,840
tipped off

2279
01:35:24,390 --> 01:35:21,600
that the building had collapsed and it

2280
01:35:26,470 --> 01:35:24,400
was just once the but the copy was in

2281
01:35:28,550 --> 01:35:26,480
the press people's hands it just moved

2282
01:35:30,629 --> 01:35:28,560
through the paces and ended up in front

2283
01:35:32,470 --> 01:35:30,639
of the talking heads so

2284
01:35:33,990 --> 01:35:32,480
but i mean it that's it would be really

2285
01:35:34,870 --> 01:35:34,000
hard to debunk something like that

2286
01:35:36,390 --> 01:35:34,880
because

2287
01:35:45,350 --> 01:35:36,400
the

2288
01:35:47,430 --> 01:35:45,360
studio saying hey this building got was

2289
01:35:49,189 --> 01:35:47,440
collapsed or collapsed but you're seeing

2290
01:35:51,590 --> 01:35:49,199
it right in front of it right in front

2291
01:35:53,270 --> 01:35:51,600
of her that it's obviously there so how

2292
01:35:55,109 --> 01:35:53,280
one could debunk this i mean you'd have

2293
01:35:56,950 --> 01:35:55,119
to go through a lot of mental hula hoops

2294
01:35:58,709 --> 01:35:56,960
to do it but it's one of those glaring

2295
01:36:02,149 --> 01:35:58,719
examples i feel like

2296
01:36:04,950 --> 01:36:02,159
now uh with uh let's move over to the

2297
01:36:06,950 --> 01:36:04,960
pentagon and i have a lot of issues here

2298
01:36:08,149 --> 01:36:06,960
too as well now

2299
01:36:10,709 --> 01:36:08,159
uh

2300
01:36:12,229 --> 01:36:10,719
yeah the first thing

2301
01:36:15,750 --> 01:36:12,239
that i

2302
01:36:19,109 --> 01:36:15,760
i find it hard to understand

2303
01:36:21,430 --> 01:36:19,119
is how an amateur pilot could control a

2304
01:36:26,149 --> 01:36:21,440
commercial jetliner

2305
01:36:28,229 --> 01:36:26,159
and fly it that low and and manage to to

2306
01:36:29,830 --> 01:36:28,239
pull that off and and hit the building

2307
01:36:31,910 --> 01:36:29,840
it's one thing to

2308
01:36:34,950 --> 01:36:31,920
discuss hitting one of the world trade

2309
01:36:37,030 --> 01:36:34,960
centers but those are up in the air 100

2310
01:36:41,669 --> 01:36:37,040
stories in the air it's a it's a big

2311
01:36:44,390 --> 01:36:41,679
target here you need to fly into a city

2312
01:36:45,350 --> 01:36:44,400
and bring the plane down uh to ground

2313
01:36:48,550 --> 01:36:45,360
level

2314
01:36:51,270 --> 01:36:48,560
and and get it to hit the side of the

2315
01:36:54,709 --> 01:36:51,280
pentagon that we're going to discuss

2316
01:36:56,470 --> 01:36:54,719
other aspects of it but that must be

2317
01:36:59,189 --> 01:36:56,480
difficult even for the best most

2318
01:37:01,189 --> 01:36:59,199
professional pilot to pull off

2319
01:37:02,950 --> 01:37:01,199
oh well yeah i mean and the missile if

2320
01:37:05,189 --> 01:37:02,960
you look at the trajectory the thing was

2321
01:37:06,790 --> 01:37:05,199
literally like 10 or 20 feet off of the

2322
01:37:08,229 --> 01:37:06,800
ground i think it hit like the second

2323
01:37:09,669 --> 01:37:08,239
floor of the building the second story

2324
01:37:12,470 --> 01:37:09,679
of the building so

2325
01:37:14,629 --> 01:37:12,480
how you uh somebody managed to turn

2326
01:37:15,669 --> 01:37:14,639
around perfectly line up along the

2327
01:37:18,790 --> 01:37:15,679
target

2328
01:37:20,870 --> 01:37:18,800
come through and and uh and land hover

2329
01:37:22,629 --> 01:37:20,880
over the ground and then on top of that

2330
01:37:24,629 --> 01:37:22,639
there's telephone poles there's light

2331
01:37:26,709 --> 01:37:24,639
poles there's all these other objects

2332
01:37:28,950 --> 01:37:26,719
obstacles in the way how they managed to

2333
01:37:31,510 --> 01:37:28,960
cut through all that perfectly and then

2334
01:37:33,830 --> 01:37:31,520
smash into the side of the pentagon and

2335
01:37:35,510 --> 01:37:33,840
leave no debris whatsoever the plane

2336
01:37:36,950 --> 01:37:35,520
just like atomized

2337
01:37:38,229 --> 01:37:36,960
when it hit the building i mean how does

2338
01:37:39,590 --> 01:37:38,239
that happen

2339
01:37:43,109 --> 01:37:39,600
the uh

2340
01:37:46,390 --> 01:37:43,119
the pentagon and washington dc

2341
01:37:51,270 --> 01:37:46,400
has to be one of the most videotaped and

2342
01:37:53,350 --> 01:37:51,280
security cameras uh places on on earth

2343
01:37:54,470 --> 01:37:53,360
yep okay

2344
01:37:56,390 --> 01:37:54,480
why

2345
01:37:59,430 --> 01:37:56,400
hasn't anybody

2346
01:38:01,910 --> 01:37:59,440
come forward with videotape

2347
01:38:03,270 --> 01:38:01,920
now i understand suppressing and then

2348
01:38:05,669 --> 01:38:03,280
the government going around and not

2349
01:38:07,750 --> 01:38:05,679
releasing their video

2350
01:38:10,550 --> 01:38:07,760
but there must be

2351
01:38:12,629 --> 01:38:10,560
video in private hands

2352
01:38:14,229 --> 01:38:12,639
nothing has surfaced

2353
01:38:16,229 --> 01:38:14,239
nothing yet they even come in here i

2354
01:38:17,590 --> 01:38:16,239
think there was a holiday inn or double

2355
01:38:18,550 --> 01:38:17,600
tree or something like that across the

2356
01:38:21,590 --> 01:38:18,560
street

2357
01:38:23,270 --> 01:38:21,600
and they released some of their footage

2358
01:38:25,430 --> 01:38:23,280
which i think has survived in a few

2359
01:38:27,750 --> 01:38:25,440
secure places online somewhere

2360
01:38:29,510 --> 01:38:27,760
but that was quickly confiscated by the

2361
01:38:31,270 --> 01:38:29,520
fbi so yeah all of the all of the

2362
01:38:32,870 --> 01:38:31,280
footage that was from that event was

2363
01:38:34,310 --> 01:38:32,880
completely scrubbed from the public

2364
01:38:36,390 --> 01:38:34,320
record

2365
01:38:39,030 --> 01:38:36,400
how how is it is it

2366
01:38:40,709 --> 01:38:39,040
well obviously it happened but is it

2367
01:38:44,149 --> 01:38:40,719
possible

2368
01:38:45,910 --> 01:38:44,159
that there is no footage of it that's

2369
01:38:48,470 --> 01:38:45,920
the first question

2370
01:38:51,350 --> 01:38:48,480
and the second thing is

2371
01:38:55,189 --> 01:38:53,430
no plane

2372
01:38:57,910 --> 01:38:55,199
that hit the pentagon

2373
01:38:58,790 --> 01:38:57,920
that's that's the other aspect of it you

2374
01:39:05,350 --> 01:38:58,800
know

2375
01:39:07,109 --> 01:39:05,360
of a missile now if if it was a missile

2376
01:39:11,189 --> 01:39:07,119
that would explain

2377
01:39:13,830 --> 01:39:11,199
nobody seeing a plane and no video of a

2378
01:39:16,550 --> 01:39:13,840
plane okay all right so i know we're

2379
01:39:19,189 --> 01:39:16,560
getting out there

2380
01:39:20,870 --> 01:39:19,199
but if it was a missile now we are

2381
01:39:24,390 --> 01:39:20,880
talking about

2382
01:39:27,430 --> 01:39:24,400
a very very heavy conspiracy and and a

2383
01:39:30,149 --> 01:39:27,440
real false flag one that raises big

2384
01:39:32,950 --> 01:39:30,159
concerns for this country

2385
01:39:35,030 --> 01:39:32,960
certainly well in line with that

2386
01:39:37,669 --> 01:39:35,040
i happen to find a quote from a major

2387
01:39:40,229 --> 01:39:37,679
general albert stubblebee

2388
01:39:42,790 --> 01:39:40,239
and he says i quote i saw a missile

2389
01:39:44,870 --> 01:39:42,800
hitting the pentagon not a plane

2390
01:39:47,109 --> 01:39:44,880
all of the sensors were turned off that

2391
01:39:49,189 --> 01:39:47,119
day one apparently did not turn off and

2392
01:39:51,270 --> 01:39:49,199
it shows this object hit the pentagon

2393
01:39:54,390 --> 01:39:51,280
and it did not look like an airplane so

2394
01:39:56,390 --> 01:39:54,400
here we have a general a major general

2395
01:39:57,830 --> 01:39:56,400
coming forward to say that there was

2396
01:39:59,910 --> 01:39:57,840
definitely not an airplane it was a

2397
01:40:02,229 --> 01:39:59,920
missile so that although we might not

2398
01:40:04,709 --> 01:40:02,239
have footage we do have testimony like

2399
01:40:06,070 --> 01:40:04,719
this that adds a lot of credibility to

2400
01:40:08,229 --> 01:40:06,080
the notion that there wasn't actually a

2401
01:40:11,189 --> 01:40:08,239
plane at all it was a missile yeah he

2402
01:40:13,430 --> 01:40:11,199
goes on to say at each floor successive

2403
01:40:15,750 --> 01:40:13,440
puffs of smoke are seen

2404
01:40:17,830 --> 01:40:15,760
all the way down those puffs of smoke

2405
01:40:20,629 --> 01:40:17,840
are due to controlled demolitions the

2406
01:40:23,750 --> 01:40:20,639
collapse of the twin towers were caused

2407
01:40:27,189 --> 01:40:23,760
by controlled demolition major general

2408
01:40:29,189 --> 01:40:27,199
albert stubblebean

2409
01:40:30,629 --> 01:40:29,199
exactly so

2410
01:40:32,070 --> 01:40:30,639
i mean there are people who have come

2411
01:40:34,390 --> 01:40:32,080
out and

2412
01:40:37,030 --> 01:40:34,400
dropped testimony out there that raises

2413
01:40:39,270 --> 01:40:37,040
a lot of questions and you know again if

2414
01:40:41,030 --> 01:40:39,280
you i forget the the video i saw i wish

2415
01:40:42,390 --> 01:40:41,040
i could remember but somebody had done a

2416
01:40:45,510 --> 01:40:42,400
reconstruction

2417
01:40:47,590 --> 01:40:45,520
of the the attack on the pentagon and

2418
01:40:49,990 --> 01:40:47,600
they placed all of the the telephone

2419
01:40:52,709 --> 01:40:50,000
poles the cameras the fencing all of

2420
01:40:54,870 --> 01:40:52,719
that and all of these things the plane

2421
01:40:56,629 --> 01:40:54,880
would have had to just move through

2422
01:40:58,390 --> 01:40:56,639
as if it wasn't even a physical object

2423
01:41:01,030 --> 01:40:58,400
like it was a ghost and then somehow

2424
01:41:03,350 --> 01:41:01,040
materialize right before it hits the

2425
01:41:04,790 --> 01:41:03,360
the side of the building because these

2426
01:41:06,390 --> 01:41:04,800
telephone poles and these light poles

2427
01:41:08,229 --> 01:41:06,400
would have banged up the wings that you

2428
01:41:10,149 --> 01:41:08,239
know obviously something like a plane

2429
01:41:12,070 --> 01:41:10,159
hit going that fast hitting a telephone

2430
01:41:13,750 --> 01:41:12,080
pole it'd throw it off its trajectory

2431
01:41:15,990 --> 01:41:13,760
things like this so

2432
01:41:18,310 --> 01:41:16,000
there's a glaring amount of i would say

2433
01:41:20,149 --> 01:41:18,320
circumstantial evidence to suggest that

2434
01:41:22,070 --> 01:41:20,159
there's definitely not an airplane there

2435
01:41:25,910 --> 01:41:22,080
and there was something else going on i

2436
01:41:28,629 --> 01:41:25,920
have a i have another issue um that i

2437
01:41:30,950 --> 01:41:28,639
and this is just me before i go and say

2438
01:41:32,390 --> 01:41:30,960
this was a missile this was a false flag

2439
01:41:36,629 --> 01:41:32,400
this was planned

2440
01:41:39,189 --> 01:41:36,639
let's just say for a moment that it was

2441
01:41:41,990 --> 01:41:39,199
it was what it was it was a hijacker he

2442
01:41:44,470 --> 01:41:42,000
grabbed control of the plane he flew it

2443
01:41:47,830 --> 01:41:44,480
he managed to fly it into the pentagon

2444
01:41:50,790 --> 01:41:47,840
if we go with that and i'm looking at

2445
01:41:51,669 --> 01:41:50,800
the size of the plane where it would

2446
01:41:52,629 --> 01:41:51,679
there

2447
01:42:14,070 --> 01:41:52,639
i

2448
01:42:15,270 --> 01:42:14,080
have dragged on the grass for hundreds

2449
01:42:18,550 --> 01:42:15,280
of yards

2450
01:42:21,189 --> 01:42:18,560
and we would have seen evidence of that

2451
01:42:24,310 --> 01:42:21,199
and that everything that i have seen of

2452
01:42:27,350 --> 01:42:24,320
the pentagon there isn't anything there

2453
01:42:30,229 --> 01:42:27,360
i'm just asking for something

2454
01:42:33,109 --> 01:42:30,239
to to clear my mind on this that's all

2455
01:42:37,350 --> 01:42:33,119
and i and i'm cool i can move forward

2456
01:42:38,950 --> 01:42:37,360
but there isn't uh a long gouge

2457
01:42:39,910 --> 01:42:38,960
in front of the pentagon where this

2458
01:42:41,109 --> 01:42:39,920
plane

2459
01:42:44,470 --> 01:42:41,119
you know or

2460
01:42:46,470 --> 01:42:44,480
and the reason why i bring this up

2461
01:42:49,910 --> 01:42:46,480
it it seems to me that

2462
01:42:50,709 --> 01:42:49,920
the the plane would have uh

2463
01:42:53,030 --> 01:42:50,719
uh

2464
01:42:54,790 --> 01:42:53,040
not been steady

2465
01:42:57,830 --> 01:42:54,800
in that it would have hit the ground

2466
01:43:00,229 --> 01:42:57,840
come up hit the ground gouged left left

2467
01:43:04,149 --> 01:43:00,239
a mark and then hit the pentagon instead

2468
01:43:06,390 --> 01:43:04,159
of a nice smooth arc straight in by a

2469
01:43:08,470 --> 01:43:06,400
professional pilot

2470
01:43:11,270 --> 01:43:08,480
right you understand what i'm saying of

2471
01:43:13,270 --> 01:43:11,280
course i mean anybody who's flown in an

2472
01:43:14,149 --> 01:43:13,280
airplane you know at least a handful of

2473
01:43:16,229 --> 01:43:14,159
times

2474
01:43:17,830 --> 01:43:16,239
knows that the moment before the plane

2475
01:43:19,510 --> 01:43:17,840
touches the ground

2476
01:43:20,950 --> 01:43:19,520
they're they're basically like in free

2477
01:43:22,470 --> 01:43:20,960
fall they're trying to keep that thing

2478
01:43:25,109 --> 01:43:22,480
hovering off of the ground and then when

2479
01:43:26,550 --> 01:43:25,119
they hit the ground the plane's jostling

2480
01:43:28,070 --> 01:43:26,560
around and it's correcting itself and

2481
01:43:30,229 --> 01:43:28,080
it's trying to stay in a straight line

2482
01:43:32,629 --> 01:43:30,239
so you know if this isn't an exact

2483
01:43:34,470 --> 01:43:32,639
science when it comes to getting a plane

2484
01:43:36,870 --> 01:43:34,480
that close to the ground

2485
01:43:37,590 --> 01:43:36,880
um you know it would it would take a lot

2486
01:43:39,830 --> 01:43:37,600
of

2487
01:43:41,910 --> 01:43:39,840
discipline it would take a tremendous

2488
01:43:43,270 --> 01:43:41,920
amount of skill and effort for somebody

2489
01:43:44,790 --> 01:43:43,280
to pull something like that off and

2490
01:43:46,470 --> 01:43:44,800
professional pilots have come out and

2491
01:43:48,470 --> 01:43:46,480
said that they couldn't even do

2492
01:43:49,750 --> 01:43:48,480
something like this

2493
01:43:53,750 --> 01:43:49,760
the uh

2494
01:43:55,990 --> 01:43:53,760
i'm looking at uh jim kay just sent me a

2495
01:43:57,350 --> 01:43:56,000
video it's up on twitter you can look at

2496
01:43:59,109 --> 01:43:57,360
it here

2497
01:44:00,950 --> 01:43:59,119
of something hitting the side of the

2498
01:44:03,669 --> 01:44:00,960
pentagon

2499
01:44:05,669 --> 01:44:03,679
and uh this is uh

2500
01:44:10,070 --> 01:44:05,679
this is uh pretty interesting i would

2501
01:44:15,430 --> 01:44:10,080
like to see this original link if uh

2502
01:44:19,430 --> 01:44:17,109
where's the original link to this i

2503
01:44:22,790 --> 01:44:19,440
would like to see this uh on on a big

2504
01:44:25,669 --> 01:44:22,800
screen i can't enlarge this here but

2505
01:44:28,390 --> 01:44:25,679
that's that's interesting so please send

2506
01:44:31,109 --> 01:44:28,400
me the original link to that and we can

2507
01:44:33,270 --> 01:44:31,119
we can check that out the the point that

2508
01:44:35,590 --> 01:44:33,280
you brought up earlier

2509
01:44:38,629 --> 01:44:35,600
uh justin which is

2510
01:44:41,669 --> 01:44:38,639
all of the telephone poles

2511
01:44:44,149 --> 01:44:41,679
right and everything else that was in

2512
01:44:45,510 --> 01:44:44,159
its way wasn't it all

2513
01:44:48,950 --> 01:44:45,520
knocked down

2514
01:44:51,669 --> 01:44:48,960
isn't there evidence of this plane

2515
01:44:55,350 --> 01:44:51,679
coming in i'm talking about the wingspan

2516
01:44:58,149 --> 01:44:55,360
and this this is a point that is is as

2517
01:44:59,830 --> 01:44:58,159
elemental as it sounds

2518
01:45:02,070 --> 01:44:59,840
it's like an obvious question that

2519
01:45:03,430 --> 01:45:02,080
everybody has about the pentagon we

2520
01:45:05,830 --> 01:45:03,440
should see

2521
01:45:08,950 --> 01:45:05,840
a debris field out in front of the

2522
01:45:11,189 --> 01:45:08,960
pentagon and lots of damage before

2523
01:45:12,709 --> 01:45:11,199
uh the plane struck the side i don't

2524
01:45:15,350 --> 01:45:12,719
want to take

2525
01:45:17,270 --> 01:45:15,360
uh away from all of the tragic deaths

2526
01:45:18,950 --> 01:45:17,280
and and the things that happened at the

2527
01:45:20,629 --> 01:45:18,960
pentagon and throughout the united

2528
01:45:23,350 --> 01:45:20,639
states that day

2529
01:45:26,950 --> 01:45:23,360
but these are questions that even the

2530
01:45:28,950 --> 01:45:26,960
most basic of minds are asking

2531
01:45:30,390 --> 01:45:28,960
what about that have you seen any

2532
01:45:32,629 --> 01:45:30,400
evidence of

2533
01:45:34,310 --> 01:45:32,639
of telephone poles and and things that

2534
01:45:36,550 --> 01:45:34,320
had to have been knocked down in front

2535
01:45:37,830 --> 01:45:36,560
of the pentagon

2536
01:45:40,070 --> 01:45:37,840
well that's the thing is they they

2537
01:45:41,669 --> 01:45:40,080
scrubbed all the footage it was a

2538
01:45:43,510 --> 01:45:41,679
it was something where nobody could go

2539
01:45:45,430 --> 01:45:43,520
in and perform their own

2540
01:45:47,270 --> 01:45:45,440
independent investigation so

2541
01:45:48,709 --> 01:45:47,280
all of the material i think this from

2542
01:45:51,030 --> 01:45:48,719
what i remember correctly after this

2543
01:45:53,350 --> 01:45:51,040
thing hit the pentagon they went in

2544
01:45:55,270 --> 01:45:53,360
there with bulldozers they ripped up all

2545
01:45:56,790 --> 01:45:55,280
the grass they tore everything out that

2546
01:45:59,030 --> 01:45:56,800
nobody could get in there and look for

2547
01:46:01,430 --> 01:45:59,040
any type of debris whatsoever and it's

2548
01:46:02,550 --> 01:46:01,440
the pentagon so it's a secure facility

2549
01:46:05,350 --> 01:46:02,560
so

2550
01:46:07,270 --> 01:46:05,360
as far as i can tell there's no evidence

2551
01:46:08,629 --> 01:46:07,280
of anything i mean all we have to work

2552
01:46:10,550 --> 01:46:08,639
with is

2553
01:46:12,950 --> 01:46:10,560
the fact that you know there was

2554
01:46:15,350 --> 01:46:12,960
reconstruction on the pentagon that they

2555
01:46:17,030 --> 01:46:15,360
we have uh reports that the pentagon was

2556
01:46:19,510 --> 01:46:17,040
set but as far as like direct evidence

2557
01:46:21,109 --> 01:46:19,520
that we can look to after the fact it's

2558
01:46:22,629 --> 01:46:21,119
all been scrubbed it's all been removed

2559
01:46:24,709 --> 01:46:22,639
and it's a good reason to do that is

2560
01:46:26,310 --> 01:46:24,719
because then it it prevents people from

2561
01:46:27,750 --> 01:46:26,320
conducting their own investigation and

2562
01:46:29,669 --> 01:46:27,760
fact checking they certainly don't want

2563
01:46:31,590 --> 01:46:29,679
to do that if there's some

2564
01:46:34,229 --> 01:46:31,600
alternative story than the mainstream

2565
01:46:35,750 --> 01:46:34,239
narrative being pushed to the people

2566
01:46:37,590 --> 01:46:35,760
uh

2567
01:46:40,390 --> 01:46:37,600
the

2568
01:46:42,709 --> 01:46:40,400
here is a fact this is from mark uh

2569
01:46:45,109 --> 01:46:42,719
toronto over in australia he says fact

2570
01:46:48,229 --> 01:46:45,119
the plane can't fly at the reported

2571
01:46:52,709 --> 01:46:48,239
speed at that level because the wings

2572
01:46:55,109 --> 01:46:52,719
generate too much lift

2573
01:46:57,189 --> 01:46:55,119
great point that is a great course that

2574
01:47:00,709 --> 01:46:57,199
would make a lot of sense he also says

2575
01:47:03,430 --> 01:47:00,719
the plane allegedly flew through five

2576
01:47:06,149 --> 01:47:03,440
light poles

2577
01:47:10,149 --> 01:47:06,159
there you go yeah well now um

2578
01:47:12,310 --> 01:47:10,159
yeah i just i i i think there's just now

2579
01:47:14,550 --> 01:47:12,320
okay

2580
01:47:16,470 --> 01:47:14,560
this is one of the

2581
01:47:20,070 --> 01:47:16,480
the points that

2582
01:47:21,669 --> 01:47:20,080
i it it's so obvious

2583
01:47:25,109 --> 01:47:21,679
but the

2584
01:47:27,910 --> 01:47:25,119
the the total story the clear story the

2585
01:47:30,310 --> 01:47:27,920
one that explains everything has never

2586
01:47:33,030 --> 01:47:30,320
been presented to us

2587
01:47:35,590 --> 01:47:33,040
the one where everything is out this is

2588
01:47:37,270 --> 01:47:35,600
what happened here are the videos here's

2589
01:47:39,510 --> 01:47:37,280
here's this here's the timer here's this

2590
01:47:41,830 --> 01:47:39,520
here's the radar cross section here it

2591
01:47:45,189 --> 01:47:41,840
is flying across washington dc here it

2592
01:47:47,910 --> 01:47:45,199
is in manhattan that you know every the

2593
01:47:49,669 --> 01:47:47,920
flight 93 we haven't even addressed that

2594
01:47:50,709 --> 01:47:49,679
point yet and we'll get to that after

2595
01:47:53,270 --> 01:47:50,719
the break

2596
01:47:55,270 --> 01:47:53,280
but that's the part for for all of us

2597
01:47:57,990 --> 01:47:55,280
the reason why all of these questions

2598
01:48:00,550 --> 01:47:58,000
are still out there is because the clear

2599
01:48:04,470 --> 01:48:00,560
story has never been presented to us

2600
01:48:08,070 --> 01:48:04,480
with everything that we need to know

2601
01:48:10,390 --> 01:48:08,080
exactly that's a glaring problem i mean

2602
01:48:12,229 --> 01:48:10,400
to take a really

2603
01:48:14,629 --> 01:48:12,239
hard-lined approach to this you know how

2604
01:48:16,870 --> 01:48:14,639
do we know if an explanation

2605
01:48:19,510 --> 01:48:16,880
is good how do we know if it actually is

2606
01:48:20,550 --> 01:48:19,520
valid well from a scientific perspective

2607
01:48:22,629 --> 01:48:20,560
you know when you're developing a

2608
01:48:25,270 --> 01:48:22,639
scientific theory your theory has to

2609
01:48:27,830 --> 01:48:25,280
explain all of the observed phenomena

2610
01:48:29,910 --> 01:48:27,840
and it has to do it well it has to do in

2611
01:48:31,030 --> 01:48:29,920
in conjunction with other established

2612
01:48:33,669 --> 01:48:31,040
knowledge

2613
01:48:35,990 --> 01:48:33,679
so if there's even one point no matter

2614
01:48:37,750 --> 01:48:36,000
how small no matter how seemingly

2615
01:48:40,149 --> 01:48:37,760
unimportant that isn't properly

2616
01:48:41,590 --> 01:48:40,159
explained in a theory or an explanation

2617
01:48:43,910 --> 01:48:41,600
then you have to call the whole theory

2618
01:48:45,990 --> 01:48:43,920
into question and do an evaluation so

2619
01:48:49,270 --> 01:48:46,000
here we have a situation where there's

2620
01:48:51,430 --> 01:48:49,280
just piles and piles of evidence

2621
01:48:53,270 --> 01:48:51,440
and observation that contradicts the

2622
01:48:55,990 --> 01:48:53,280
mainstream official narrative

2623
01:48:57,510 --> 01:48:56,000
and so it's it's incumbent upon all of

2624
01:48:58,229 --> 01:48:57,520
us who actually want to seek the truth

2625
01:48:59,830 --> 01:48:58,239
to

2626
01:49:01,590 --> 01:48:59,840
recognize these things and ask these

2627
01:49:03,590 --> 01:49:01,600
hardline questions and that that's why

2628
01:49:05,270 --> 01:49:03,600
this issue this 9 11 issues and going

2629
01:49:07,510 --> 01:49:05,280
away and just gaining more momentum as

2630
01:49:09,910 --> 01:49:07,520
time goes on

2631
01:49:12,149 --> 01:49:09,920
this was uh this email was just sent in

2632
01:49:14,390 --> 01:49:12,159
um from bernadette she says jimmy you

2633
01:49:17,189 --> 01:49:14,400
were discussing factual evidence for the

2634
01:49:19,350 --> 01:49:17,199
9 11 conspiracy a big one i'd like to

2635
01:49:21,189 --> 01:49:19,360
hear you discuss with justin

2636
01:49:24,709 --> 01:49:21,199
is the financial

2637
01:49:27,750 --> 01:49:24,719
stock puts that had money invested

2638
01:49:29,910 --> 01:49:27,760
against the airliner how did all top 20

2639
01:49:32,310 --> 01:49:29,920
corporations have money invested on the

2640
01:49:35,030 --> 01:49:32,320
tragedy of the specific airliner and

2641
01:49:36,550 --> 01:49:35,040
capitalize on the 911 tragedy

2642
01:49:39,830 --> 01:49:36,560
financially

2643
01:49:41,430 --> 01:49:39,840
and that's another i i read so much

2644
01:49:42,390 --> 01:49:41,440
about that

2645
01:49:44,550 --> 01:49:42,400
um

2646
01:49:47,109 --> 01:49:44,560
you brought up the insurance aspect but

2647
01:49:49,990 --> 01:49:47,119
there was the other part of this

2648
01:49:53,350 --> 01:49:50,000
where the the stock market

2649
01:49:56,629 --> 01:49:53,360
um had investment and puts against uh

2650
01:49:58,550 --> 01:49:56,639
the airliner now wait a minute here

2651
01:50:01,589 --> 01:49:58,560
and nobody wants to ask questions about

2652
01:50:04,390 --> 01:50:01,599
this what did you find out about that

2653
01:50:06,229 --> 01:50:04,400
oh well follow the money i mean i i

2654
01:50:07,589 --> 01:50:06,239
i saw a documentary i believe it was

2655
01:50:09,510 --> 01:50:07,599
called the ring of power it's like a

2656
01:50:11,990 --> 01:50:09,520
five-hour documentary the woman who put

2657
01:50:13,830 --> 01:50:12,000
it together did a painstaking job at

2658
01:50:15,589 --> 01:50:13,840
detailing all the financial connections

2659
01:50:18,470 --> 01:50:15,599
and one of them she said was what you

2660
01:50:21,510 --> 01:50:18,480
just mentioned which is that certain

2661
01:50:23,910 --> 01:50:21,520
players in the stock market seem to know

2662
01:50:25,510 --> 01:50:23,920
in advance where to place their money so

2663
01:50:27,270 --> 01:50:25,520
that after this event happened they

2664
01:50:30,470 --> 01:50:27,280
would not only protect their assets but

2665
01:50:32,950 --> 01:50:30,480
make a boatload of money in the process

2666
01:50:35,669 --> 01:50:32,960
the and some of these some of these

2667
01:50:36,709 --> 01:50:35,679
financial moves in the stock market were

2668
01:50:39,030 --> 01:50:36,719
done

2669
01:50:41,990 --> 01:50:39,040
uh one to two weeks

2670
01:50:44,229 --> 01:50:42,000
or more in advance and specifically

2671
01:50:46,149 --> 01:50:44,239
targeting that day

2672
01:50:47,669 --> 01:50:46,159
right exactly and that's the way these

2673
01:50:50,070 --> 01:50:47,679
guys work i mean

2674
01:50:52,470 --> 01:50:50,080
the financial system is rigged of course

2675
01:50:53,350 --> 01:50:52,480
but it's not completely and utterly

2676
01:50:55,750 --> 01:50:53,360
rigged

2677
01:50:57,510 --> 01:50:55,760
i would say that it's more allowed to

2678
01:50:59,910 --> 01:50:57,520
unfold in a certain way what they've

2679
01:51:01,669 --> 01:50:59,920
really gotten good at is manipulating

2680
01:51:03,510 --> 01:51:01,679
world events and using prediction

2681
01:51:04,790 --> 01:51:03,520
software and various other algorithm

2682
01:51:06,709 --> 01:51:04,800
algorithms to understand the

2683
01:51:08,070 --> 01:51:06,719
fluctuations of the market and obviously

2684
01:51:10,790 --> 01:51:08,080
if they've been planning this event for

2685
01:51:12,310 --> 01:51:10,800
years which by all accounts they have

2686
01:51:14,229 --> 01:51:12,320
then they're going to put all their

2687
01:51:16,629 --> 01:51:14,239
money at certain places to make the most

2688
01:51:18,070 --> 01:51:16,639
amount of money possible and you know

2689
01:51:19,750 --> 01:51:18,080
there's a glaring example that this

2690
01:51:21,270 --> 01:51:19,760
isn't conspiracy theory stuff you can go

2691
01:51:23,990 --> 01:51:21,280
look up these records yourself and you

2692
01:51:25,030 --> 01:51:24,000
can see them for yourself

2693
01:51:26,390 --> 01:51:25,040
the uh

2694
01:51:28,310 --> 01:51:26,400
the hole

2695
01:51:31,510 --> 01:51:28,320
that was

2696
01:51:34,149 --> 01:51:31,520
left in the side of the pentagon

2697
01:51:37,270 --> 01:51:34,159
you look at that and then you think

2698
01:51:39,589 --> 01:51:37,280
about the size of the jetliner

2699
01:51:42,310 --> 01:51:39,599
uh two things come into play first one

2700
01:51:45,669 --> 01:51:42,320
is you just go well obviously that

2701
01:51:48,070 --> 01:51:45,679
the a plane didn't do that that's the

2702
01:51:49,830 --> 01:51:48,080
first thing that comes to mind but the

2703
01:51:52,229 --> 01:51:49,840
second thing

2704
01:51:53,830 --> 01:51:52,239
where i have to just back up

2705
01:51:55,430 --> 01:51:53,840
and think about the strength of the

2706
01:51:57,750 --> 01:51:55,440
pentagon

2707
01:51:59,910 --> 01:51:57,760
the marble the concrete

2708
01:52:03,830 --> 01:51:59,920
it's the pentagon right it's the center

2709
01:52:05,510 --> 01:52:03,840
of our military that of course the

2710
01:52:08,709 --> 01:52:05,520
building is going to be

2711
01:52:11,189 --> 01:52:08,719
built to another standard and

2712
01:52:12,870 --> 01:52:11,199
that the hole that was left was the hole

2713
01:52:14,870 --> 01:52:12,880
that was left because

2714
01:52:16,229 --> 01:52:14,880
the force of the plane and the sides of

2715
01:52:19,030 --> 01:52:16,239
the plane and the aluminum and

2716
01:52:21,430 --> 01:52:19,040
everything else was not strong enough to

2717
01:52:23,830 --> 01:52:21,440
generate a larger hole

2718
01:52:25,270 --> 01:52:23,840
so i'm you know i'm left with that

2719
01:52:27,750 --> 01:52:25,280
conundrum

2720
01:52:30,870 --> 01:52:27,760
what do you think ultimately uh crashed

2721
01:52:34,550 --> 01:52:30,880
into the pentagon

2722
01:52:35,990 --> 01:52:34,560
well we have no debris that to speak of

2723
01:52:37,830 --> 01:52:36,000
we have these

2724
01:52:39,910 --> 01:52:37,840
obstructions that would prevent an

2725
01:52:42,149 --> 01:52:39,920
airplane from flying that low to the

2726
01:52:43,990 --> 01:52:42,159
ground we have the point that you're uh

2727
01:52:46,229 --> 01:52:44,000
somebody sent to you which was a really

2728
01:52:47,030 --> 01:52:46,239
good point that the at the speed at

2729
01:52:48,390 --> 01:52:47,040
which

2730
01:52:50,149 --> 01:52:48,400
the plane would have had to hit to

2731
01:52:51,669 --> 01:52:50,159
produce that type of a crater would have

2732
01:52:53,510 --> 01:52:51,679
been so large

2733
01:52:55,669 --> 01:52:53,520
that the left on the wing would have

2734
01:52:57,990 --> 01:52:55,679
pulled it off the ground so

2735
01:52:59,750 --> 01:52:58,000
i would say that we're probably looking

2736
01:53:01,109 --> 01:52:59,760
at some type of ballistic missiles

2737
01:53:03,109 --> 01:53:01,119
especially if we consider that the

2738
01:53:04,229 --> 01:53:03,119
testimony of general um

2739
01:53:06,070 --> 01:53:04,239
double beam

2740
01:53:07,669 --> 01:53:06,080
so it seems as though we're dealing with

2741
01:53:10,070 --> 01:53:07,679
some type of missile that i would say

2742
01:53:11,910 --> 01:53:10,080
that a missile attack would incorporate

2743
01:53:14,229 --> 01:53:11,920
all of the observations we have into a

2744
01:53:15,990 --> 01:53:14,239
cohesive explanation that's where i'm

2745
01:53:19,189 --> 01:53:16,000
putting my money at this point

2746
01:53:21,350 --> 01:53:19,199
the uh the side of the building this is

2747
01:53:24,070 --> 01:53:21,360
uh from the very beginning with the

2748
01:53:25,669 --> 01:53:24,080
pentagon this is the one thing that uh

2749
01:53:28,709 --> 01:53:25,679
stood out for me

2750
01:53:31,030 --> 01:53:28,719
is you have the wingspan

2751
01:53:33,990 --> 01:53:31,040
and you have the the hole in in the

2752
01:53:36,229 --> 01:53:34,000
middle but there's nothing that

2753
01:53:37,669 --> 01:53:36,239
is on the outside

2754
01:53:39,910 --> 01:53:37,679
right there's nothing there there's no

2755
01:53:41,189 --> 01:53:39,920
broken windows there's no scratches on

2756
01:53:42,629 --> 01:53:41,199
the side of the but there's nothing

2757
01:53:45,910 --> 01:53:42,639
really there

2758
01:53:46,950 --> 01:53:45,920
so i said to myself well the wings fell

2759
01:53:51,430 --> 01:53:46,960
off

2760
01:53:53,109 --> 01:53:51,440
they're out there somewhere but they

2761
01:53:54,470 --> 01:53:53,119
they weren't

2762
01:53:56,709 --> 01:53:54,480
right

2763
01:53:58,550 --> 01:53:56,719
well sure i mean the other thing to

2764
01:54:01,109 --> 01:53:58,560
consider too is you know that this this

2765
01:54:03,510 --> 01:54:01,119
plane allegedly had massive engines on

2766
01:54:05,270 --> 01:54:03,520
it where do these you know this plane

2767
01:54:06,790 --> 01:54:05,280
smashes into the building these engines

2768
01:54:08,390 --> 01:54:06,800
got to go somewhere you'd think there'd

2769
01:54:10,550 --> 01:54:08,400
be minor craters

2770
01:54:12,709 --> 01:54:10,560
or some type of damage to the facing to

2771
01:54:14,070 --> 01:54:12,719
show that these two engines smashed in

2772
01:54:16,149 --> 01:54:14,080
and they would have been

2773
01:54:18,790 --> 01:54:16,159
fairly close in the distance from the

2774
01:54:20,550 --> 01:54:18,800
center point of the the initial impact

2775
01:54:21,990 --> 01:54:20,560
right so we would we would expect to see

2776
01:54:23,430 --> 01:54:22,000
that stuff there in the building but if

2777
01:54:24,870 --> 01:54:23,440
you actually pull up a photo which i'm

2778
01:54:26,790 --> 01:54:24,880
looking at right now

2779
01:54:28,550 --> 01:54:26,800
there's two dark spots but they're not

2780
01:54:30,070 --> 01:54:28,560
equidistant from the center point which

2781
01:54:31,350 --> 01:54:30,080
means that they probably weren't the

2782
01:54:33,189 --> 01:54:31,360
engines there was something else that

2783
01:54:34,470 --> 01:54:33,199
had smashed in there so where did these

2784
01:54:36,790 --> 01:54:34,480
engines go

2785
01:54:38,310 --> 01:54:36,800
yeah i mean there is uh

2786
01:54:39,270 --> 01:54:38,320
uh with

2787
01:54:39,990 --> 01:54:39,280
um

2788
01:54:45,750 --> 01:54:40,000
with

2789
01:54:47,430 --> 01:54:45,760
and you know full tanks and and

2790
01:54:51,350 --> 01:54:47,440
and you know crashing to the top of the

2791
01:54:53,990 --> 01:54:51,360
building the the possibility of a lot of

2792
01:54:56,709 --> 01:54:54,000
it being burnt up and then the buildings

2793
01:54:58,550 --> 01:54:56,719
just collapsed the planes disintegrated

2794
01:55:00,470 --> 01:54:58,560
along with everything else obviously the

2795
01:55:02,470 --> 01:55:00,480
buildings fell and everything was

2796
01:55:05,589 --> 01:55:02,480
pulverized into dust i can understand

2797
01:55:07,350 --> 01:55:05,599
that with the pentagon we had the exact

2798
01:55:09,589 --> 01:55:07,360
opposite of that

2799
01:55:10,470 --> 01:55:09,599
no building collapsed there should have

2800
01:55:11,589 --> 01:55:10,480
been

2801
01:55:16,470 --> 01:55:11,599
debris

2802
01:55:19,270 --> 01:55:16,480
of the airplane should have been

2803
01:55:20,870 --> 01:55:19,280
somewhere you know and and those engines

2804
01:55:23,669 --> 01:55:20,880
that you're talking about

2805
01:55:26,470 --> 01:55:23,679
and that's where well with the pentagon

2806
01:55:29,350 --> 01:55:26,480
um i i'm i'm very

2807
01:55:32,790 --> 01:55:29,360
i'm very perplexed uh with that and then

2808
01:55:35,910 --> 01:55:32,800
we have we're gonna take a break uh in

2809
01:55:37,510 --> 01:55:35,920
rural pennsylvania flight 93 nose dives

2810
01:55:38,790 --> 01:55:37,520
into the ground

2811
01:55:41,270 --> 01:55:38,800
and

2812
01:55:43,189 --> 01:55:41,280
nothing is left behind

2813
01:55:46,709 --> 01:55:43,199
i mean

2814
01:55:49,109 --> 01:55:46,719
nobody nothing is left and

2815
01:55:51,030 --> 01:55:49,119
there wasn't an opportunity

2816
01:55:53,430 --> 01:55:51,040
afforded to any independent

2817
01:55:57,589 --> 01:55:53,440
investigation or film crews or anything

2818
01:56:00,470 --> 01:55:57,599
else that were allowed to the crash site

2819
01:56:04,550 --> 01:56:00,480
to go and ask questions and that is

2820
01:56:06,709 --> 01:56:04,560
another giant red flag for us i think

2821
01:56:08,310 --> 01:56:06,719
oh yeah unquestionably i mean it

2822
01:56:09,990 --> 01:56:08,320
we can we can certainly dive into a

2823
01:56:11,830 --> 01:56:10,000
little bit here but yeah i'm looking at

2824
01:56:12,709 --> 01:56:11,840
a photo right now of the crash and

2825
01:56:14,149 --> 01:56:12,719
there's

2826
01:56:16,790 --> 01:56:14,159
i don't see anything i don't see a

2827
01:56:18,470 --> 01:56:16,800
fuchsia fuselage i don't see seats

2828
01:56:19,750 --> 01:56:18,480
i don't see you know

2829
01:56:21,830 --> 01:56:19,760
airplane

2830
01:56:23,669 --> 01:56:21,840
uh the wings i don't see any engines i

2831
01:56:25,270 --> 01:56:23,679
don't see anything it's just a black

2832
01:56:26,390 --> 01:56:25,280
spot on the ground so where did this

2833
01:56:29,109 --> 01:56:26,400
plane go

2834
01:56:31,430 --> 01:56:29,119
yeah the uh the

2835
01:56:35,030 --> 01:56:31,440
the evidence that we have over the years

2836
01:56:36,470 --> 01:56:35,040
of of plane crashes all around uh this

2837
01:56:38,470 --> 01:56:36,480
planet

2838
01:56:40,550 --> 01:56:38,480
we are able to go back collect the

2839
01:56:43,669 --> 01:56:40,560
debris and figure out how the plane

2840
01:56:46,470 --> 01:56:43,679
crashed right that's right we do

2841
01:56:48,870 --> 01:56:46,480
and with flight 93

2842
01:56:50,470 --> 01:56:48,880
the exact opposite of that came into

2843
01:56:52,550 --> 01:56:50,480
play here

2844
01:56:54,229 --> 01:56:52,560
there is nothing left behind

2845
01:56:56,870 --> 01:56:54,239
there's nothing here the plane crashed

2846
01:56:58,709 --> 01:56:56,880
at 500 miles an hour nose dived in

2847
01:57:02,229 --> 01:56:58,719
there's nothing left

2848
01:57:05,030 --> 01:57:02,239
and that is a little bit strange to me

2849
01:57:06,950 --> 01:57:05,040
it is it doesn't sit right

2850
01:57:09,109 --> 01:57:06,960
right and they have these black boxes i

2851
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mean the black boxes are designed to

2852
01:57:13,189 --> 01:57:11,199
withstand massive impacts so you can

2853
01:57:14,390 --> 01:57:13,199
have flight recorder data but where did

2854
01:57:16,310 --> 01:57:14,400
that go

2855
01:57:18,709 --> 01:57:16,320
as far as i remember there was no black

2856
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box we need to take a break right here

2857
01:57:23,030 --> 01:57:20,159
when we come back

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we need to ask the question

2859
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why

2860
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okay big conspiracy false flags well you

2861
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know

2862
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we have to ask the question why we're

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going to do all of that when we come

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back our guest

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02:02:43,750 --> 02:02:39,840
welcome back paid to black how much

2970
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9 11

2971
02:02:51,189 --> 02:02:47,440
our guest tonight justin deschamps

2972
02:02:53,750 --> 02:02:51,199
dedicating this show to jim mars

2973
02:02:55,669 --> 02:02:53,760
and now i'm i'm going to read something

2974
02:02:57,270 --> 02:02:55,679
really quick uh to you justin about this

2975
02:03:02,070 --> 02:02:57,280
insider trading

2976
02:03:04,470 --> 02:03:02,080
this is from alan m uh uh potionsman uh

2977
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from the journal of business and he says

2978
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a measure of

2979
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abnormal long put volume was also

2980
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examined and seemed to be abnormally

2981
02:03:14,550 --> 02:03:12,480
high levels in the days leading up to

2982
02:03:16,229 --> 02:03:14,560
the attacks consequently

2983
02:03:18,629 --> 02:03:16,239
the paper concludes that there is

2984
02:03:20,629 --> 02:03:18,639
evidence of unusual option market

2985
02:03:23,270 --> 02:03:20,639
activity in the days leading up to

2986
02:03:26,070 --> 02:03:23,280
september 11th that is consistent with

2987
02:03:29,109 --> 02:03:26,080
investors trading on advanced knowledge

2988
02:03:31,189 --> 02:03:29,119
of the attacks okay

2989
02:03:33,350 --> 02:03:31,199
the study was intended to address the

2990
02:03:35,589 --> 02:03:33,360
great deal of speculation about whether

2991
02:03:37,510 --> 02:03:35,599
option market activity indicated that

2992
02:03:39,189 --> 02:03:37,520
the terrorists or their associates had

2993
02:03:41,750 --> 02:03:39,199
traded in the days leading up to

2994
02:03:43,830 --> 02:03:41,760
september 11th an advanced knowledge of

2995
02:03:47,109 --> 02:03:43,840
the impending attacks in the days

2996
02:03:50,870 --> 02:03:47,119
leading up to 9 11 analysis shows a rise

2997
02:03:53,109 --> 02:03:50,880
in the put to call ratio for united

2998
02:03:54,870 --> 02:03:53,119
airlines and american airlines the two

2999
02:03:56,870 --> 02:03:54,880
airlines from which the planes were

3000
02:03:58,870 --> 02:03:56,880
hijacked on 9 11.

3001
02:04:01,430 --> 02:03:58,880
between september 6th and 7th the

3002
02:04:03,830 --> 02:04:01,440
chicago board options exchange recorded

3003
02:04:05,510 --> 02:04:03,840
purchases of 4

3004
02:04:09,589 --> 02:04:05,520
744

3005
02:04:14,390 --> 02:04:09,599
put option contracts on united airlines

3006
02:04:16,310 --> 02:04:14,400
396 and 396 uh call options on september

3007
02:04:19,430 --> 02:04:16,320
10th more trading in chicago saw the

3008
02:04:21,910 --> 02:04:19,440
purchase of 4 516 put options in

3009
02:04:24,550 --> 02:04:21,920
american airlines the other airline

3010
02:04:28,310 --> 02:04:24,560
involved in the hijackings with a mere

3011
02:04:30,310 --> 02:04:28,320
400 748 call options in american

3012
02:04:33,510 --> 02:04:30,320
purchased that day

3013
02:04:35,990 --> 02:04:33,520
no other airline companies had unusual

3014
02:04:38,390 --> 02:04:36,000
put to call ratio in the days leading up

3015
02:04:41,750 --> 02:04:38,400
to the attacks the 911 commission

3016
02:04:44,629 --> 02:04:41,760
concluded that these abnormal patterns

3017
02:04:47,350 --> 02:04:44,639
in trading were coincidental

3018
02:04:49,750 --> 02:04:47,360
now there's a lot more information that

3019
02:04:53,109 --> 02:04:49,760
is out there including raytheon

3020
02:04:57,189 --> 02:04:53,119
uh and and what had happened there uh td

3021
02:04:59,830 --> 02:04:57,199
uh waterhouse uh uh brokerage firms nfs

3022
02:05:02,149 --> 02:04:59,840
fidelity investments uh they they

3023
02:05:04,709 --> 02:05:02,159
estimated that the insider or the

3024
02:05:07,589 --> 02:05:04,719
trading or traders would have realized a

3025
02:05:09,589 --> 02:05:07,599
five million dollar profit

3026
02:05:11,990 --> 02:05:09,599
now i'm i'm just

3027
02:05:13,910 --> 02:05:12,000
you know when you look at all of this it

3028
02:05:15,830 --> 02:05:13,920
just seems to me

3029
02:05:18,390 --> 02:05:15,840
that there was foreign knowledge there

3030
02:05:21,109 --> 02:05:18,400
was a lot of information out there it

3031
02:05:24,950 --> 02:05:21,119
wasn't just with washington but others

3032
02:05:26,149 --> 02:05:24,960
came in to play here the question is

3033
02:05:27,669 --> 02:05:26,159
justin

3034
02:05:32,069 --> 02:05:27,679
why

3035
02:05:36,390 --> 02:05:34,310
well i think the answer to that question

3036
02:05:39,109 --> 02:05:36,400
is multiple layered i mean

3037
02:05:40,790 --> 02:05:39,119
for certain players in the cabal

3038
02:05:42,870 --> 02:05:40,800
criminal network you could say money is

3039
02:05:46,069 --> 02:05:42,880
a motivating factor so i would say they

3040
02:05:48,149 --> 02:05:46,079
recruit certain people through greed

3041
02:05:50,069 --> 02:05:48,159
and it's a lot of people are just happy

3042
02:05:51,350 --> 02:05:50,079
making gobs of money and living opulent

3043
02:05:52,790 --> 02:05:51,360
lives and you know they're not

3044
02:05:54,790 --> 02:05:52,800
necessarily

3045
02:05:57,750 --> 02:05:54,800
uh red in or

3046
02:06:01,030 --> 02:05:57,760
aware of the deeper darker aspects

3047
02:06:02,790 --> 02:06:01,040
but i think to as far as i i went really

3048
02:06:04,310 --> 02:06:02,800
deep in trying to answer this question

3049
02:06:06,310 --> 02:06:04,320
i'm still trying to answer this question

3050
02:06:07,270 --> 02:06:06,320
but what i've distilled from my research

3051
02:06:09,109 --> 02:06:07,280
is this

3052
02:06:11,030 --> 02:06:09,119
and it's um

3053
02:06:13,669 --> 02:06:11,040
it's basically that the

3054
02:06:15,270 --> 02:06:13,679
the powers that be we're dealing with a

3055
02:06:17,030 --> 02:06:15,280
darker cult group

3056
02:06:19,109 --> 02:06:17,040
file accounts they call themselves the

3057
02:06:20,709 --> 02:06:19,119
order of the black sun they reach back

3058
02:06:23,750 --> 02:06:20,719
thousands of years

3059
02:06:25,910 --> 02:06:23,760
and they use various recruiting arms

3060
02:06:27,669 --> 02:06:25,920
to to carry out their agenda now these

3061
02:06:29,189 --> 02:06:27,679
people believe that you've had other

3062
02:06:31,830 --> 02:06:29,199
people on the show talk about this they

3063
02:06:33,189 --> 02:06:31,840
believe that the universe is basically

3064
02:06:35,750 --> 02:06:33,199
hell

3065
02:06:37,510 --> 02:06:35,760
and that instead of instead of serving

3066
02:06:38,950 --> 02:06:37,520
in heaven they want to reign in hell

3067
02:06:40,950 --> 02:06:38,960
they want to be the masters of the

3068
02:06:42,870 --> 02:06:40,960
prison so to speak

3069
02:06:43,669 --> 02:06:42,880
so one of the ways that they do that is

3070
02:06:47,830 --> 02:06:43,679
they

3071
02:06:50,149 --> 02:06:47,840
finger to the divine there any any way

3072
02:06:53,430 --> 02:06:50,159
that they can use to make the world

3073
02:06:56,550 --> 02:06:53,440
corrupt horrible evil destructive

3074
02:06:58,550 --> 02:06:56,560
manipulative they want to push that and

3075
02:07:00,390 --> 02:06:58,560
as a basis for that i want to talk to

3076
02:07:02,390 --> 02:07:00,400
you a little bit about a group that came

3077
02:07:05,350 --> 02:07:02,400
out um

3078
02:07:06,790 --> 02:07:05,360
they actually started in the 1666 so let

3079
02:07:08,709 --> 02:07:06,800
me just give you a moment to run through

3080
02:07:10,069 --> 02:07:08,719
that sure i think it will help explain a

3081
02:07:11,149 --> 02:07:10,079
lot of this

3082
02:07:14,390 --> 02:07:11,159
so back in

3083
02:07:16,790 --> 02:07:14,400
1665 there was a man named uh shabbat

3084
02:07:18,790 --> 02:07:16,800
said hezby who proclaimed he was a

3085
02:07:20,229 --> 02:07:18,800
jewish rabbi who proclaimed himself the

3086
02:07:23,030 --> 02:07:20,239
messiah

3087
02:07:25,270 --> 02:07:23,040
now he he appears to be an operative a

3088
02:07:27,270 --> 02:07:25,280
crypto jew if you will working for the

3089
02:07:28,069 --> 02:07:27,280
order of the black sun and what his job

3090
02:07:31,990 --> 02:07:28,079
was

3091
02:07:34,149 --> 02:07:32,000
judaism over into

3092
02:07:35,510 --> 02:07:34,159
a basically a hedonistic cult and one of

3093
02:07:38,390 --> 02:07:35,520
the tenets

3094
02:07:41,270 --> 02:07:38,400
of this cult was that they believed in

3095
02:07:44,709 --> 02:07:41,280
judaism that the messiah would come in

3096
02:07:46,550 --> 02:07:44,719
times of great sin or great virtue

3097
02:07:48,790 --> 02:07:46,560
and since

3098
02:07:51,270 --> 02:07:48,800
people can't be saints since we all

3099
02:07:52,709 --> 02:07:51,280
can't be saints then let us be sinners

3100
02:07:55,510 --> 02:07:52,719
so in other words

3101
02:07:58,229 --> 02:07:55,520
their their belief was that if they

3102
02:08:00,229 --> 02:07:58,239
created as much sin and debauchery and

3103
02:08:02,470 --> 02:08:00,239
inequity as possible on the planet earth

3104
02:08:05,270 --> 02:08:02,480
then eventually the messiah would come

3105
02:08:07,270 --> 02:08:05,280
and you know there would be a golden age

3106
02:08:09,430 --> 02:08:07,280
so these guys literally believe that

3107
02:08:11,109 --> 02:08:09,440
causing the most pain and hardships as

3108
02:08:14,470 --> 02:08:11,119
humanly possible

3109
02:08:16,069 --> 02:08:14,480
is the best way to realize their agenda

3110
02:08:17,669 --> 02:08:16,079
and i think that helps explain a lot of

3111
02:08:19,350 --> 02:08:17,679
the machinations that we see here i mean

3112
02:08:21,589 --> 02:08:19,360
why would these people plan an event

3113
02:08:23,189 --> 02:08:21,599
like this why would we see all sorts of

3114
02:08:25,430 --> 02:08:23,199
things that we have i mean cures for

3115
02:08:27,990 --> 02:08:25,440
cancer being suppressed you know

3116
02:08:30,629 --> 02:08:28,000
horrific pain and tragedy all upon the

3117
02:08:33,910 --> 02:08:30,639
planet i think it's partially because

3118
02:08:35,510 --> 02:08:33,920
this this deranged and insane group of

3119
02:08:37,189 --> 02:08:35,520
dark occultists

3120
02:08:38,870 --> 02:08:37,199
is trying to

3121
02:08:41,750 --> 02:08:38,880
create as much pain and suffering on the

3122
02:08:44,069 --> 02:08:41,760
planet as possible and that's partially

3123
02:08:45,510 --> 02:08:44,079
to realize their vision of a dark world

3124
02:08:46,870 --> 02:08:45,520
and we could certainly dig more into

3125
02:08:49,669 --> 02:08:46,880
that but i think that's a huge thread

3126
02:08:51,510 --> 02:08:49,679
that explains part of the why question

3127
02:08:52,629 --> 02:08:51,520
is the

3128
02:08:57,350 --> 02:08:52,639
the other

3129
02:09:02,709 --> 02:08:57,360
backside of 911 which is

3130
02:09:05,350 --> 02:09:02,719
uh the invasion of afghanistan one to uh

3131
02:09:08,629 --> 02:09:05,360
iraq uh came into play

3132
02:09:11,270 --> 02:09:08,639
um uh terrorists and and

3133
02:09:14,069 --> 02:09:11,280
uh saddam hussein was

3134
02:09:16,470 --> 02:09:14,079
somehow connected to bin laden

3135
02:09:18,069 --> 02:09:16,480
uh which all a lot of this you know

3136
02:09:20,229 --> 02:09:18,079
turned out to be completely false and

3137
02:09:21,750 --> 02:09:20,239
weapons of mass destruction and

3138
02:09:24,310 --> 02:09:21,760
and uh

3139
02:09:28,149 --> 02:09:24,320
you know the dots are all connected here

3140
02:09:29,990 --> 02:09:28,159
but is there also the aspect

3141
02:09:32,229 --> 02:09:30,000
of which comes into play with what

3142
02:09:35,189 --> 02:09:32,239
you're explaining here of course that

3143
02:09:39,350 --> 02:09:35,199
there are dark powers in play and that

3144
02:09:42,229 --> 02:09:39,360
they wanted uh this false flag created

3145
02:09:45,109 --> 02:09:42,239
to go in and invade these countries and

3146
02:09:47,510 --> 02:09:45,119
profit off of those invasions not only

3147
02:09:50,149 --> 02:09:47,520
directly with the military and and

3148
02:09:52,790 --> 02:09:50,159
raytheon and and tomahawk missiles and

3149
02:09:55,109 --> 02:09:52,800
bombs and bullets and

3150
02:09:58,709 --> 02:09:55,119
everything that the logistics that comes

3151
02:10:01,189 --> 02:09:58,719
into play and the profiting off of uh

3152
02:10:04,149 --> 02:10:01,199
that type of invasion but certainly the

3153
02:10:05,910 --> 02:10:04,159
reconstructive aspect of it afterwards

3154
02:10:07,990 --> 02:10:05,920
right we'll go and level the countries

3155
02:10:09,830 --> 02:10:08,000
and then we'll go in and use american

3156
02:10:11,430 --> 02:10:09,840
companies to go in and build streets and

3157
02:10:12,550 --> 02:10:11,440
infrastructure and water and power

3158
02:10:14,950 --> 02:10:12,560
plants and

3159
02:10:16,870 --> 02:10:14,960
and of course tap into the oil and we'll

3160
02:10:19,990 --> 02:10:16,880
capture that too as well

3161
02:10:22,950 --> 02:10:20,000
that all of this was was part of

3162
02:10:25,030 --> 02:10:22,960
what 911 was about

3163
02:10:27,669 --> 02:10:25,040
yeah precisely you nailed it i mean it

3164
02:10:28,709 --> 02:10:27,679
multi-tiered multi-pronged agenda and

3165
02:10:31,669 --> 02:10:28,719
platform

3166
02:10:33,990 --> 02:10:31,679
you know you they they wanted to produce

3167
02:10:35,830 --> 02:10:34,000
a platform for basically american

3168
02:10:37,589 --> 02:10:35,840
imperialism we're going to become the

3169
02:10:38,950 --> 02:10:37,599
world police we're going to go in and

3170
02:10:41,189 --> 02:10:38,960
save these

3171
02:10:42,709 --> 02:10:41,199
countries from whatever tyrants they

3172
02:10:44,870 --> 02:10:42,719
happen to be operating under we're going

3173
02:10:46,470 --> 02:10:44,880
to give them democracy and everything's

3174
02:10:48,629 --> 02:10:46,480
going to be great well what goes hand in

3175
02:10:50,950 --> 02:10:48,639
hand with that we have massive up

3176
02:10:53,270 --> 02:10:50,960
increases in military spending so we got

3177
02:10:54,870 --> 02:10:53,280
the military imperialism that goes there

3178
02:10:56,790 --> 02:10:54,880
we're usually invading countries that

3179
02:10:59,189 --> 02:10:56,800
had a lot of financial resources and

3180
02:11:01,030 --> 02:10:59,199
assets i mean iraq has a ton of oil

3181
02:11:03,750 --> 02:11:01,040
wells it's one of the most oil rich

3182
02:11:05,990 --> 02:11:03,760
places on the planet

3183
02:11:08,229 --> 02:11:06,000
you look at afghanistan afghanistan has

3184
02:11:10,069 --> 02:11:08,239
a massive amount of opium production

3185
02:11:11,669 --> 02:11:10,079
which is obviously important because the

3186
02:11:12,629 --> 02:11:11,679
drug companies need to have access to

3187
02:11:14,870 --> 02:11:12,639
opium

3188
02:11:16,229 --> 02:11:14,880
so yeah i mean just from a financial

3189
02:11:18,470 --> 02:11:16,239
perspective if you don't want to dive

3190
02:11:21,109 --> 02:11:18,480
too deep in the occult stuff just from a

3191
02:11:23,350 --> 02:11:21,119
financial perspective there was a huge

3192
02:11:25,189 --> 02:11:23,360
incentive for this event to take place

3193
02:11:27,830 --> 02:11:25,199
this false flag takes place so that they

3194
02:11:29,910 --> 02:11:27,840
could drum up a lot of material support

3195
02:11:32,149 --> 02:11:29,920
and a lot of money and i would say you

3196
02:11:33,669 --> 02:11:32,159
know to throw in the the ufologies

3197
02:11:34,950 --> 02:11:33,679
aspect to that why would they need all

3198
02:11:36,470 --> 02:11:34,960
this money in the first place i mean

3199
02:11:37,669 --> 02:11:36,480
think about it we're dealing with the

3200
02:11:39,030 --> 02:11:37,679
rothschilds we're dealing with the

3201
02:11:41,430 --> 02:11:39,040
rockefellers the people who own the

3202
02:11:44,390 --> 02:11:41,440
federal reserve these guys are receiving

3203
02:11:47,350 --> 02:11:44,400
trillions of dollars every year

3204
02:11:49,589 --> 02:11:47,360
from taxes and assets of the fans

3205
02:11:51,750 --> 02:11:49,599
central banking schemes that they have

3206
02:11:53,189 --> 02:11:51,760
so why would they need all this money

3207
02:11:54,790 --> 02:11:53,199
well i think part of the reason they

3208
02:11:56,550 --> 02:11:54,800
needed this money was because they

3209
02:11:58,069 --> 02:11:56,560
needed to fund black operations in

3210
02:12:00,550 --> 02:11:58,079
various programs so this is probably a

3211
02:12:01,750 --> 02:12:00,560
money grab for that type of agenda as

3212
02:12:05,589 --> 02:12:01,760
well

3213
02:12:06,550 --> 02:12:05,599
the the back room the dark board rooms

3214
02:12:07,750 --> 02:12:06,560
where

3215
02:12:13,350 --> 02:12:07,760
these

3216
02:12:15,669 --> 02:12:13,360
actually discuss

3217
02:12:17,109 --> 02:12:15,679
what we are talking about here

3218
02:12:19,589 --> 02:12:17,119
it's it's one of the most frightening

3219
02:12:23,510 --> 02:12:19,599
aspects of all of this because it does

3220
02:12:24,629 --> 02:12:23,520
go on i i guarantee that it does go on

3221
02:12:27,990 --> 02:12:24,639
the uh

3222
02:12:29,990 --> 02:12:28,000
uh the question about bin laden's plane

3223
02:12:32,629 --> 02:12:30,000
which uh for me was one of the big

3224
02:12:35,270 --> 02:12:32,639
tipping points in the very very very

3225
02:12:36,229 --> 02:12:35,280
beginning for me it was bin laden's

3226
02:12:41,669 --> 02:12:36,239
plane

3227
02:12:42,470 --> 02:12:41,679
passport

3228
02:12:45,109 --> 02:12:42,480
now

3229
02:12:45,910 --> 02:12:45,119
this email just came in from rob and he

3230
02:12:48,470 --> 02:12:45,920
says

3231
02:12:50,870 --> 02:12:48,480
how is it that we know bin laden's

3232
02:12:53,589 --> 02:12:50,880
family was on a private plane leaving

3233
02:12:56,629 --> 02:12:53,599
the country during the no fly

3234
02:12:59,750 --> 02:12:56,639
this would seem easy to hide if desired

3235
02:13:02,709 --> 02:12:59,760
seems to me we only know of this because

3236
02:13:05,669 --> 02:13:02,719
we are supposed to know about it and

3237
02:13:08,310 --> 02:13:05,679
that is exactly the point

3238
02:13:11,589 --> 02:13:08,320
he he brings up one of the best i mean

3239
02:13:14,470 --> 02:13:11,599
it was like out of the gate

3240
02:13:17,350 --> 02:13:14,480
bin laden and the family right there

3241
02:13:20,149 --> 02:13:17,360
and look bin laden may have planned all

3242
02:13:22,149 --> 02:13:20,159
of this and yes he may have uh been

3243
02:13:24,470 --> 02:13:22,159
given all of this in advance and yes he

3244
02:13:27,589 --> 02:13:24,480
had his direct connections to the cia

3245
02:13:30,470 --> 02:13:27,599
and what was going in uh going on in

3246
02:13:33,189 --> 02:13:30,480
afghanistan uh during the russian

3247
02:13:35,750 --> 02:13:33,199
occupation we understand all of that bin

3248
02:13:39,270 --> 02:13:35,760
laden was a player and he was known to

3249
02:13:41,830 --> 02:13:39,280
us from the get-go right and

3250
02:13:43,910 --> 02:13:41,840
let's not let's not forget that william

3251
02:13:44,950 --> 02:13:43,920
cooper bill cooper brought up all of

3252
02:13:48,229 --> 02:13:44,960
this

3253
02:13:50,790 --> 02:13:48,239
uh way before uh it had ever happened so

3254
02:13:53,350 --> 02:13:50,800
it wasn't like bin laden was unknown

3255
02:13:54,790 --> 02:13:53,360
but the fact that his family's planes

3256
02:13:56,550 --> 02:13:54,800
were flown out of this country and we

3257
02:13:59,109 --> 02:13:56,560
were told about it

3258
02:14:01,910 --> 02:13:59,119
it would have been an easy thing to hide

3259
02:14:03,109 --> 02:14:01,920
a very easy thing to hide but they

3260
02:14:05,669 --> 02:14:03,119
didn't

3261
02:14:08,069 --> 02:14:05,679
it just shows a conspiracy

3262
02:14:09,990 --> 02:14:08,079
on all levels

3263
02:14:11,589 --> 02:14:10,000
yeah that's a good question to ask is it

3264
02:14:12,470 --> 02:14:11,599
something that they wanted to drop out

3265
02:14:15,589 --> 02:14:12,480
there

3266
02:14:17,669 --> 02:14:15,599
to try to as a red herring to to lead

3267
02:14:20,310 --> 02:14:17,679
people astray to say hey well

3268
02:14:22,310 --> 02:14:20,320
you know then lana's family was secreted

3269
02:14:24,550 --> 02:14:22,320
away out of the country does that

3270
02:14:26,229 --> 02:14:24,560
suggest that he was complicit did that

3271
02:14:28,149 --> 02:14:26,239
suggest that there was players and

3272
02:14:29,510 --> 02:14:28,159
actors in the u.s government that were

3273
02:14:31,189 --> 02:14:29,520
complicit in this

3274
02:14:33,350 --> 02:14:31,199
and if that's the case if they're trying

3275
02:14:34,149 --> 02:14:33,360
to leak that out then why would they do

3276
02:14:41,990 --> 02:14:34,159
that

3277
02:14:43,430 --> 02:14:42,000
mask by creating a layers of obfuscation

3278
02:14:44,550 --> 02:14:43,440
you know that's that's what these guys

3279
02:14:46,870 --> 02:14:44,560
like to do

3280
02:14:48,310 --> 02:14:46,880
usually the lies is not just one line

3281
02:14:50,229 --> 02:14:48,320
then you peel back that layer and all of

3282
02:14:52,550 --> 02:14:50,239
a sudden you see the truth usually it's

3283
02:14:54,390 --> 02:14:52,560
deception over deception over deception

3284
02:14:56,229 --> 02:14:54,400
and i would say that's the case because

3285
02:14:58,069 --> 02:14:56,239
within these schemes

3286
02:14:59,669 --> 02:14:58,079
you know we tend to think that the the

3287
02:15:01,669 --> 02:14:59,679
cabal or the powers that be are like

3288
02:15:03,589 --> 02:15:01,679
this perfectly coordinated system in

3289
02:15:05,350 --> 02:15:03,599
there everybody's on the same page and

3290
02:15:06,709 --> 02:15:05,360
everybody knows what's up i don't think

3291
02:15:08,310 --> 02:15:06,719
that's the case at all i think it's

3292
02:15:10,870 --> 02:15:08,320
actually the case is you have multiple

3293
02:15:11,589 --> 02:15:10,880
groups all vying for power

3294
02:15:14,229 --> 02:15:11,599
and

3295
02:15:16,390 --> 02:15:14,239
a certain centralized group uses various

3296
02:15:18,470 --> 02:15:16,400
methods of manipulation to coerce others

3297
02:15:20,709 --> 02:15:18,480
so what this could be is they maybe they

3298
02:15:22,390 --> 02:15:20,719
bribed the bin laden maybe they had some

3299
02:15:24,390 --> 02:15:22,400
deal between bin laden and the bushes

3300
02:15:25,990 --> 02:15:24,400
they secreted him away and but he was a

3301
02:15:28,550 --> 02:15:26,000
one layer of the onion and there was

3302
02:15:31,270 --> 02:15:28,560
deeper layers at work here who knows

3303
02:15:33,669 --> 02:15:31,280
uh this this email just came in i need

3304
02:15:36,390 --> 02:15:33,679
information from everybody in this

3305
02:15:38,629 --> 02:15:36,400
audience on this including you justin oh

3306
02:15:41,189 --> 02:15:38,639
this is from eric and he says

3307
02:15:43,350 --> 02:15:41,199
anybody else see something on cnn that

3308
02:15:45,430 --> 02:15:43,360
awful day that ran across the news

3309
02:15:47,510 --> 02:15:45,440
ticker at the bottom of the tv it says

3310
02:15:50,550 --> 02:15:47,520
something about and i'm quoting here the

3311
02:15:52,709 --> 02:15:50,560
public shouldn't panic end quote that if

3312
02:15:55,270 --> 02:15:52,719
there were serious attacks against the

3313
02:15:57,350 --> 02:15:55,280
government there was a shadow government

3314
02:16:00,550 --> 02:15:57,360
ready to step in and take over in case

3315
02:16:02,950 --> 02:16:00,560
of any federal national emergency

3316
02:16:04,870 --> 02:16:02,960
um do you remember anything like that

3317
02:16:07,430 --> 02:16:04,880
justin and i'm i'm throwing this out to

3318
02:16:08,870 --> 02:16:07,440
the audience as well

3319
02:16:11,189 --> 02:16:08,880
i don't recall seeing something like

3320
02:16:12,229 --> 02:16:11,199
that but uh it sounds quite interesting

3321
02:16:15,189 --> 02:16:12,239
for sure

3322
02:16:16,950 --> 02:16:15,199
i i do want to take the chance to uh

3323
02:16:19,510 --> 02:16:16,960
open up the phone lines they have been

3324
02:16:21,910 --> 02:16:19,520
going off i've been ignoring them but

3325
02:16:25,189 --> 02:16:21,920
i'm only gonna take calls on three two

3326
02:16:28,229 --> 02:16:25,199
three two seven five nine six nine five

3327
02:16:30,790 --> 02:16:28,239
or eight one eight nine two one

3328
02:16:33,190 --> 02:16:30,800
six nine two nine again three two three

3329
02:16:35,429 --> 02:16:33,200
two seven five nine six nine five or

3330
02:16:38,230 --> 02:16:35,439
eight one eight nine two one

3331
02:16:39,589 --> 02:16:38,240
six nine two nine i needed to get that

3332
02:16:40,790 --> 02:16:39,599
out of the way the phones are going

3333
02:16:44,070 --> 02:16:40,800
crazy

3334
02:16:46,389 --> 02:16:44,080
but uh i need everything to go over to

3335
02:16:47,669 --> 02:16:46,399
those phone lines and then i'll uh start

3336
02:16:49,270 --> 02:16:47,679
to pay attention

3337
02:16:50,389 --> 02:16:49,280
um justin

3338
02:16:53,110 --> 02:16:50,399
today

3339
02:16:54,230 --> 02:16:53,120
i i do want to take this opportunity to

3340
02:16:55,190 --> 02:16:54,240
talk about

3341
02:16:57,589 --> 02:16:55,200
uh

3342
02:17:00,870 --> 02:16:57,599
this is 17 years ago

3343
02:17:03,990 --> 02:17:00,880
and we have a lot of

3344
02:17:06,709 --> 02:17:04,000
who was uh seated in government and the

3345
02:17:09,910 --> 02:17:06,719
military still in place today

3346
02:17:10,790 --> 02:17:09,920
uh today uh we have q anon

3347
02:17:11,990 --> 02:17:10,800
um

3348
02:17:13,030 --> 02:17:12,000
uh

3349
02:17:14,790 --> 02:17:13,040
what

3350
02:17:17,509 --> 02:17:14,800
is there a connection is there a

3351
02:17:18,629 --> 02:17:17,519
connection with uh q anon's information

3352
02:17:22,790 --> 02:17:18,639
today

3353
02:17:23,830 --> 02:17:22,800
and could q anon have been part of what

3354
02:17:27,349 --> 02:17:23,840
was

3355
02:17:29,509 --> 02:17:27,359
going down in 2001

3356
02:17:30,629 --> 02:17:29,519
that's a really good question i i think

3357
02:17:32,150 --> 02:17:30,639
that

3358
02:17:35,110 --> 02:17:32,160
you know the correlation there yet like

3359
02:17:36,950 --> 02:17:35,120
you said it's a 17 year anniversary

3360
02:17:39,190 --> 02:17:36,960
the 17th letter

3361
02:17:45,110 --> 02:17:39,200
is cute

3362
02:17:49,830 --> 02:17:47,030
you're breaking up everything that you

3363
02:17:52,309 --> 02:17:49,840
just said needs to be repeated you said

3364
02:17:53,910 --> 02:17:52,319
this is this yeah that's okay

3365
02:17:59,190 --> 02:17:53,920
uh let's pick it up from there you said

3366
02:18:01,190 --> 02:17:59,200
this is the 17th anniversary of 2001.

3367
02:18:03,589 --> 02:18:01,200
yeah the 17th anniversary of the

3368
02:18:07,669 --> 02:18:03,599
september 11th tax

3369
02:18:10,230 --> 02:18:07,679
so that's 17 the number 17 corresponds

3370
02:18:12,790 --> 02:18:10,240
to the letter q in the alphabet from a

3371
02:18:13,669 --> 02:18:12,800
german gematria perspective

3372
02:18:15,589 --> 02:18:13,679
so

3373
02:18:17,589 --> 02:18:15,599
there's that connection what that means

3374
02:18:19,509 --> 02:18:17,599
necessarily i'm not quite sure but i

3375
02:18:21,270 --> 02:18:19,519
find it interesting that

3376
02:18:23,669 --> 02:18:21,280
like we were saying earlier

3377
02:18:26,549 --> 02:18:23,679
the the original september 11th attack

3378
02:18:28,070 --> 02:18:26,559
occurred on tuesday tuesday's the god of

3379
02:18:30,150 --> 02:18:28,080
war

3380
02:18:32,070 --> 02:18:30,160
so it was the cabal essentially

3381
02:18:33,830 --> 02:18:32,080
attacking

3382
02:18:36,629 --> 02:18:33,840
some aspect of our society we'll just

3383
02:18:37,589 --> 02:18:36,639
leave it at that so here we are 17 years

3384
02:18:39,270 --> 02:18:37,599
later

3385
02:18:41,270 --> 02:18:39,280
now it's the

3386
02:18:42,709 --> 02:18:41,280
also falling on a tuesday because

3387
02:18:44,870 --> 02:18:42,719
today's tuesday

3388
02:18:46,309 --> 02:18:44,880
and we have this q thing that came out

3389
02:18:50,389 --> 02:18:46,319
last year

3390
02:18:52,070 --> 02:18:50,399
so it seems to imply that perhaps and

3391
02:18:53,110 --> 02:18:52,080
this is a big question i'm not saying

3392
02:18:54,629 --> 02:18:53,120
this is what i believe but i'm just

3393
02:18:55,990 --> 02:18:54,639
throwing it out there for some for some

3394
02:18:57,110 --> 02:18:56,000
of us to consider

3395
02:18:59,509 --> 02:18:57,120
what if

3396
02:19:01,270 --> 02:18:59,519
the whole alliance that has been trying

3397
02:19:02,389 --> 02:19:01,280
to free the planet has been around for a

3398
02:19:05,750 --> 02:19:02,399
long time

3399
02:19:07,669 --> 02:19:05,760
uh some people say that uh it's

3400
02:19:09,990 --> 02:19:07,679
plan has been being hashed for you know

3401
02:19:11,589 --> 02:19:10,000
20 30 40 50 years

3402
02:19:14,150 --> 02:19:11,599
what if

3403
02:19:16,389 --> 02:19:14,160
the 911 event was allowed to happen from

3404
02:19:18,389 --> 02:19:16,399
the alliance perspective so that it

3405
02:19:20,469 --> 02:19:18,399
would eventually culminate in a massive

3406
02:19:21,990 --> 02:19:20,479
freedom event i mean that's a that's a

3407
02:19:24,230 --> 02:19:22,000
big pill to swallow but i think it's a

3408
02:19:25,589 --> 02:19:24,240
definitive possibility and if

3409
02:19:26,950 --> 02:19:25,599
if q

3410
02:19:29,270 --> 02:19:26,960
i mean that's not the whole conversation

3411
02:19:31,349 --> 02:19:29,280
right there but if q is really

3412
02:19:32,790 --> 02:19:31,359
representative of an alliance faction

3413
02:19:36,070 --> 02:19:32,800
within the government

3414
02:19:37,669 --> 02:19:36,080
then what could be planned for the

3415
02:19:39,589 --> 02:19:37,679
the days following

3416
02:19:41,669 --> 02:19:39,599
today that's my question that's what i'm

3417
02:19:43,429 --> 02:19:41,679
not sure is happening is there really an

3418
02:19:45,110 --> 02:19:43,439
alliance faction that's out there to

3419
02:19:47,030 --> 02:19:45,120
free us it certainly seems like it

3420
02:19:49,110 --> 02:19:47,040
depends based on where you look but

3421
02:19:50,950 --> 02:19:49,120
there's a lot of uncertainty there

3422
02:19:53,830 --> 02:19:50,960
when we have uh

3423
02:19:56,469 --> 02:19:53,840
the the big question here how

3424
02:19:59,750 --> 02:19:56,479
how could our government plan something

3425
02:20:03,349 --> 02:19:59,760
like this you know uh 3 000 people died

3426
02:20:07,030 --> 02:20:03,359
more died of of of cancer and lingering

3427
02:20:08,070 --> 02:20:07,040
effects of of what happened in manhattan

3428
02:20:10,550 --> 02:20:08,080
that day

3429
02:20:11,990 --> 02:20:10,560
so there's that part of it

3430
02:20:15,349 --> 02:20:12,000
and it

3431
02:20:19,190 --> 02:20:15,359
seems too much to absorb

3432
02:20:23,270 --> 02:20:19,200
but i have to direct everybody back very

3433
02:20:26,070 --> 02:20:23,280
simply to operation northwoods

3434
02:20:28,469 --> 02:20:26,080
and operation northwoods which goes back

3435
02:20:31,910 --> 02:20:28,479
to 1962

3436
02:20:35,030 --> 02:20:31,920
was a proposal uh that called for the

3437
02:20:37,670 --> 02:20:35,040
cia the central intelligence agency and

3438
02:20:40,150 --> 02:20:37,680
other government operatives to commit

3439
02:20:42,790 --> 02:20:40,160
acts of terrorism against american

3440
02:20:46,389 --> 02:20:42,800
civilians and military targets and

3441
02:20:49,349 --> 02:20:46,399
blaming it on the cuban government

3442
02:20:51,670 --> 02:20:49,359
and the plans uh detailed very

3443
02:20:53,590 --> 02:20:51,680
specifically about

3444
02:20:56,070 --> 02:20:53,600
hijacking planes

3445
02:20:59,110 --> 02:20:56,080
uh blowing up a u.s ship

3446
02:21:00,790 --> 02:20:59,120
and orchestrating violent uh terrorism

3447
02:21:03,110 --> 02:21:00,800
in u.s cities

3448
02:21:06,710 --> 02:21:03,120
and use this as an

3449
02:21:09,349 --> 02:21:06,720
excuse to turn around and attack uh

3450
02:21:12,870 --> 02:21:09,359
fidel castro and cuba

3451
02:21:16,389 --> 02:21:12,880
um now this was uh

3452
02:21:18,630 --> 02:21:16,399
uh used to create public support for

3453
02:21:20,710 --> 02:21:18,640
that war against cuba

3454
02:21:24,870 --> 02:21:20,720
uh blaming it on them

3455
02:21:27,429 --> 02:21:24,880
uh hijacking a plane uh or uh and using

3456
02:21:31,030 --> 02:21:27,439
that plane shooting the plane down

3457
02:21:33,510 --> 02:21:31,040
and saying that cuba shot the plane down

3458
02:21:37,030 --> 02:21:33,520
right and now it's like wait a minute

3459
02:21:38,630 --> 02:21:37,040
here now this plan was drafted by the

3460
02:21:42,230 --> 02:21:38,640
joint chiefs

3461
02:21:45,670 --> 02:21:42,240
signed by chairman lyman leominster

3462
02:21:48,790 --> 02:21:45,680
and sent to the secretary of defense and

3463
02:21:51,270 --> 02:21:48,800
it was a sat down proposed

3464
02:21:54,870 --> 02:21:51,280
to not only the joint chiefs but

3465
02:21:58,230 --> 02:21:54,880
president john f kennedy now it was

3466
02:21:59,670 --> 02:21:58,240
rejected allegedly by kennedy

3467
02:22:00,710 --> 02:21:59,680
um but

3468
02:22:09,670 --> 02:22:00,720
the

3469
02:22:11,910 --> 02:22:09,680
drafted this plan and thought it was a

3470
02:22:14,309 --> 02:22:11,920
great idea

3471
02:22:16,550 --> 02:22:14,319
had kennedy said yes

3472
02:22:17,830 --> 02:22:16,560
it would have happened

3473
02:22:19,030 --> 02:22:17,840
right

3474
02:22:21,270 --> 02:22:19,040
exactly

3475
02:22:23,110 --> 02:22:21,280
so yeah here we have a glaring example

3476
02:22:25,590 --> 02:22:23,120
right in the public eye where the

3477
02:22:27,990 --> 02:22:25,600
government is planning false flag style

3478
02:22:29,750 --> 02:22:28,000
attacks to use against another

3479
02:22:30,550 --> 02:22:29,760
nation but still

3480
02:22:41,110 --> 02:22:30,560
the

3481
02:22:42,150 --> 02:22:41,120
goes back here so that is a really good

3482
02:22:44,150 --> 02:22:42,160
example

3483
02:22:45,429 --> 02:22:44,160
of what i would say is a proof of

3484
02:22:46,790 --> 02:22:45,439
character when it comes to the

3485
02:22:48,790 --> 02:22:46,800
government the shadow government in

3486
02:22:50,790 --> 02:22:48,800
particular the deep state and what

3487
02:22:52,790 --> 02:22:50,800
lengths they're willing to go through in

3488
02:22:54,469 --> 02:22:52,800
order to create catalyzing events and

3489
02:22:55,910 --> 02:22:54,479
then the other the other good point that

3490
02:22:57,429 --> 02:22:55,920
we didn't mention that i think we should

3491
02:23:00,150 --> 02:22:57,439
throw out there now is the

3492
02:23:02,230 --> 02:23:00,160
the um citigroup memo i believe the

3493
02:23:04,150 --> 02:23:02,240
citigroup memo that came out

3494
02:23:05,910 --> 02:23:04,160
saying that they were going to have some

3495
02:23:07,670 --> 02:23:05,920
type of catalyzing event that will allow

3496
02:23:09,990 --> 02:23:07,680
them to gain control over some aspects

3497
02:23:13,030 --> 02:23:10,000
of the market so that's another glaring

3498
02:23:15,830 --> 02:23:13,040
indication that these these things do

3499
02:23:17,349 --> 02:23:15,840
happen mass manipulation is nothing new

3500
02:23:22,150 --> 02:23:17,359
and has been going on for a very long

3501
02:23:23,110 --> 02:23:22,160
time and the other part of this is that

3502
02:23:26,710 --> 02:23:23,120
this

3503
02:23:28,870 --> 02:23:26,720
was presented in a document called the

3504
02:23:30,550 --> 02:23:28,880
justification for u.s military

3505
02:23:32,309 --> 02:23:30,560
intervention in cuba

3506
02:23:35,190 --> 02:23:32,319
you can go and read that yourself and it

3507
02:23:37,510 --> 02:23:35,200
was released uh back in 1997.

3508
02:23:41,190 --> 02:23:37,520
uh the document is real

3509
02:23:44,230 --> 02:23:41,200
but the other part for me is

3510
02:23:47,429 --> 02:23:44,240
how long did operation northwoods and

3511
02:23:50,150 --> 02:23:47,439
the idea behind it the logistics behind

3512
02:23:53,270 --> 02:23:50,160
it just sit around and get discussed

3513
02:23:54,469 --> 02:23:53,280
many times and proposed and maybe even

3514
02:23:56,070 --> 02:23:54,479
implemented

3515
02:23:58,790 --> 02:23:56,080
that's the thing

3516
02:24:01,910 --> 02:23:58,800
right if the uh

3517
02:24:04,710 --> 02:24:01,920
the whole uh outline

3518
02:24:08,790 --> 02:24:04,720
of what happened on september 11th

3519
02:24:11,750 --> 02:24:08,800
is is right here in in this proposal

3520
02:24:14,070 --> 02:24:11,760
uh by the cia and the joint chiefs

3521
02:24:16,389 --> 02:24:14,080
it's right there the groundwork of it

3522
02:24:19,030 --> 02:24:16,399
and to get the swell of

3523
02:24:20,230 --> 02:24:19,040
american emotion and the population

3524
02:24:22,870 --> 02:24:20,240
behind

3525
02:24:26,230 --> 02:24:22,880
anything else that they may do including

3526
02:24:30,870 --> 02:24:26,240
me i was outraged right at the things

3527
02:24:33,750 --> 02:24:30,880
that i thought about uh 9 11 that day in

3528
02:24:36,070 --> 02:24:33,760
the days after that i was ready to do

3529
02:24:38,950 --> 02:24:36,080
anything and so was the rest of the

3530
02:24:43,510 --> 02:24:38,960
country and operation northwoods in its

3531
02:24:45,429 --> 02:24:43,520
core was definitely put into play

3532
02:24:47,510 --> 02:24:45,439
exactly i mean you're basically reading

3533
02:24:49,429 --> 02:24:47,520
out of the playbook of the cabal

3534
02:24:51,270 --> 02:24:49,439
you know these manipulations these

3535
02:24:52,070 --> 02:24:51,280
things that happen

3536
02:24:53,670 --> 02:24:52,080
are

3537
02:24:55,349 --> 02:24:53,680
nothing new and you know to speak to

3538
02:24:56,790 --> 02:24:55,359
that a little bit

3539
02:24:58,309 --> 02:24:56,800
one thing that i always like to try to

3540
02:25:00,630 --> 02:24:58,319
highlight when we're talking about false

3541
02:25:02,150 --> 02:25:00,640
flag attacks is you got to remember who

3542
02:25:04,790 --> 02:25:02,160
the target is

3543
02:25:06,790 --> 02:25:04,800
the the target of the false flag is not

3544
02:25:08,389 --> 02:25:06,800
the people at the world trade center

3545
02:25:10,710 --> 02:25:08,399
it's not the government

3546
02:25:12,870 --> 02:25:10,720
it's not the airlines it's not the

3547
02:25:16,070 --> 02:25:12,880
terrorists the target of the the false

3548
02:25:19,110 --> 02:25:16,080
flag is you it's your consciousness it's

3549
02:25:21,030 --> 02:25:19,120
your mind it's your sense of reality so

3550
02:25:22,630 --> 02:25:21,040
unlike what we normally think of when we

3551
02:25:24,309 --> 02:25:22,640
see these events

3552
02:25:26,950 --> 02:25:24,319
you know you got to think a good analogy

3553
02:25:29,510 --> 02:25:26,960
is like being in a in a theater

3554
02:25:30,630 --> 02:25:29,520
the illusionist is doing tricks to his

3555
02:25:33,190 --> 02:25:30,640
assistant

3556
02:25:34,550 --> 02:25:33,200
but the the effect the meat and potatoes

3557
02:25:36,230 --> 02:25:34,560
of what they're doing is in the

3558
02:25:38,550 --> 02:25:36,240
audience's minds

3559
02:25:40,309 --> 02:25:38,560
so what this false flag events happen

3560
02:25:41,910 --> 02:25:40,319
because they're psychological warfare

3561
02:25:43,670 --> 02:25:41,920
they're designed to distort your

3562
02:25:45,670 --> 02:25:43,680
perception of reality

3563
02:25:47,910 --> 02:25:45,680
create some type of anxiety and then

3564
02:25:49,910 --> 02:25:47,920
provide some type of solution

3565
02:25:50,870 --> 02:25:49,920
some pills something that you're going

3566
02:25:55,190 --> 02:25:50,880
to

3567
02:25:56,550 --> 02:25:55,200
that's why these guys are so good at

3568
02:25:58,389 --> 02:25:56,560
doing what they're doing because they're

3569
02:25:59,830 --> 02:25:58,399
ancient psychologists they know how to

3570
02:26:02,070 --> 02:25:59,840
manipulate human consciousness they've

3571
02:26:03,750 --> 02:26:02,080
been doing it for thousands of years and

3572
02:26:05,270 --> 02:26:03,760
they've gotten very good at doing it

3573
02:26:08,710 --> 02:26:05,280
through mass media and various other

3574
02:26:10,469 --> 02:26:08,720
forms what's new over at uh stillness in

3575
02:26:11,830 --> 02:26:10,479
the storm before i let you go and say

3576
02:26:14,469 --> 02:26:11,840
good night what are you guys talking

3577
02:26:16,790 --> 02:26:14,479
about over there

3578
02:26:18,870 --> 02:26:16,800
oh boy um well we're we're doing a lot

3579
02:26:20,790 --> 02:26:18,880
of cool stuff um let me see i actually

3580
02:26:22,950 --> 02:26:20,800
pulled up one a couple stories that i

3581
02:26:24,150 --> 02:26:22,960
wanted to just mention with you

3582
02:26:25,270 --> 02:26:24,160
because they were really interesting

3583
02:26:27,670 --> 02:26:25,280
there was

3584
02:26:29,510 --> 02:26:27,680
two sets of mysterious booms

3585
02:26:31,270 --> 02:26:29,520
that happened earlier this summer one

3586
02:26:33,990 --> 02:26:31,280
was on july 3rd and the other was on

3587
02:26:35,349 --> 02:26:34,000
july 23rd this one that happened on july

3588
02:26:37,349 --> 02:26:35,359
3rd

3589
02:26:39,990 --> 02:26:37,359
that was in tennessee

3590
02:26:41,510 --> 02:26:40,000
and it was a massive explosion or some

3591
02:26:43,830 --> 02:26:41,520
type of loud boom

3592
02:26:46,790 --> 02:26:43,840
the usgs claimed that it was a nearby

3593
02:26:48,870 --> 02:26:46,800
cory blast but then the cory in question

3594
02:26:50,309 --> 02:26:48,880
the the person who was uh contacted

3595
02:26:51,349 --> 02:26:50,319
there said there was no cory and they

3596
02:26:53,510 --> 02:26:51,359
don't know what the heck they're talking

3597
02:26:55,670 --> 02:26:53,520
about and this was a 2.1

3598
02:26:56,950 --> 02:26:55,680
richter scale earthquake so this isn't a

3599
02:26:58,870 --> 02:26:56,960
small event

3600
02:27:00,790 --> 02:26:58,880
then we had another one very similar to

3601
02:27:02,469 --> 02:27:00,800
it on the 23rd

3602
02:27:04,630 --> 02:27:02,479
near charleston south carolina and what

3603
02:27:06,630 --> 02:27:04,640
i thought was interesting about this

3604
02:27:08,710 --> 02:27:06,640
was that we hear about all this supposed

3605
02:27:10,309 --> 02:27:08,720
alliance activity taking out bases

3606
02:27:11,910 --> 02:27:10,319
taking out the cabal

3607
02:27:14,469 --> 02:27:11,920
um and

3608
02:27:16,870 --> 02:27:14,479
it seems like there could be some type

3609
02:27:18,309 --> 02:27:16,880
of deep underground military base

3610
02:27:20,309 --> 02:27:18,319
attacks happening or something to that

3611
02:27:22,230 --> 02:27:20,319
effect because there the number of booms

3612
02:27:24,070 --> 02:27:22,240
that has been going on over the past

3613
02:27:25,830 --> 02:27:24,080
year has just been uh

3614
02:27:27,750 --> 02:27:25,840
really interesting so that's something

3615
02:27:30,070 --> 02:27:27,760
we've been following

3616
02:27:32,550 --> 02:27:30,080
the uh i'm going through your headlines

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over here and uh we got to get you back

3618
02:27:37,670 --> 02:27:35,439
on the show uh your headline

3619
02:27:39,429 --> 02:27:37,680
donald trump implies 911 was a

3620
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controlled demolition

3621
02:27:45,110 --> 02:27:41,840
uh you've got advanced technology

3622
02:27:47,190 --> 02:27:45,120
reports leaked by corey goode confirmed

3623
02:27:49,830 --> 02:27:47,200
by leading scientists

3624
02:27:51,910 --> 02:27:49,840
and uh oh uh

3625
02:27:55,910 --> 02:27:51,920
this was uh

3626
02:27:56,830 --> 02:27:55,920
uh did you write this one or was this uh

3627
02:28:01,590 --> 02:27:56,840
was this

3628
02:28:04,389 --> 02:28:01,600
mike which one uh the corey good story

3629
02:28:06,070 --> 02:28:04,399
uh that's michael solo yeah okay

3630
02:28:08,429 --> 02:28:06,080
and uh

3631
02:28:12,070 --> 02:28:08,439
whistleblower exposes ongoing

3632
02:28:14,309 --> 02:28:12,080
geoengineering omnicide and you've got

3633
02:28:16,710 --> 02:28:14,319
uh of course hurricane florence two and

3634
02:28:19,910 --> 02:28:16,720
testified near to a category five

3635
02:28:22,550 --> 02:28:19,920
strength and our twelve nuclear power

3636
02:28:25,030 --> 02:28:22,560
reactors are uh

3637
02:28:26,389 --> 02:28:25,040
in the carolinas i find that really

3638
02:28:28,950 --> 02:28:26,399
interesting too as well and you have

3639
02:28:31,510 --> 02:28:28,960
some more q and on stuff it's all right

3640
02:28:33,590 --> 02:28:31,520
there at stillness in the storm it's uh

3641
02:28:35,750 --> 02:28:33,600
one of the great websites out there

3642
02:28:37,670 --> 02:28:35,760
justin thank you for not only stillness

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in the storm but for doing everything

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that you do thank you so much my

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pleasure jimmy and um real quick if

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anybody is in california in the invenice

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area i'll be at the portal 2 ascension

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conference from the 4th to the 7th of

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october they'll have live stream tickets

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portable ascension.com and of course you

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can find me at stillness in the

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storm.com

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justin deschamps

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thank you so much my friend

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take care jimmy have a good night yeah

3657
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you too

3658
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justin deschamps and it is stillness in

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the storm.com the links are always over

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at jimmy church radio and you can click

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on it right there yes portal 2 ascension

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and that is october

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uh october 5th through the 7th right

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here in southern california and the

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links are over at uh stillness in the

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storm dot com i'm going to take a quick

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break and open up all of the phone lines

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when i come back i'll take your phone

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[Music]

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02:34:14,630 --> 02:34:11,910
all right welcome back paid to black i

3758
02:34:17,910 --> 02:34:14,640
want to thank justin the champs

3759
02:34:21,190 --> 02:34:17,920
coming in tonight discussing all aspects

3760
02:34:23,910 --> 02:34:21,200
of 911 september 11 2001

3761
02:34:26,710 --> 02:34:23,920
shows dedicated to jim mars

3762
02:34:30,670 --> 02:34:26,720
and i'm gonna go to the phones here

3763
02:34:33,750 --> 02:34:30,680
let's go to uh area code

3764
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571 europe first here on fade to black

3765
02:34:38,710 --> 02:34:35,840
who's colin

3766
02:34:40,870 --> 02:34:38,720
hey jimmy this is david in virginia hi

3767
02:34:43,110 --> 02:34:40,880
david in virginia how are you

3768
02:34:45,910 --> 02:34:43,120
i'm just fine my speaker friends

3769
02:34:48,550 --> 02:34:45,920
encouraged me to call in i've gotta

3770
02:34:49,830 --> 02:34:48,560
tell you where i was on 9-1-1 but first

3771
02:34:52,150 --> 02:34:49,840
i want to tell you we're filling

3772
02:34:53,990 --> 02:34:52,160
sandbags ready for florence here in

3773
02:34:56,790 --> 02:34:54,000
virginia but

3774
02:34:57,670 --> 02:34:56,800
yeah yeah yeah that's uh i hope you're

3775
02:35:00,070 --> 02:34:57,680
safe

3776
02:35:01,910 --> 02:35:00,080
you know that goes without saying

3777
02:35:04,150 --> 02:35:01,920
i think i will be i'm near the

3778
02:35:06,950 --> 02:35:04,160
washington dc and it's just going to be

3779
02:35:07,750 --> 02:35:06,960
a lot of rain and flooding for us

3780
02:35:10,950 --> 02:35:07,760
but

3781
02:35:13,349 --> 02:35:10,960
i was in the pentagon on

3782
02:35:16,150 --> 02:35:13,359
was in center 911 and

3783
02:35:17,030 --> 02:35:16,160
you know i like to say i saw the plane

3784
02:35:22,630 --> 02:35:17,040
hit

3785
02:35:24,870 --> 02:35:22,640
but i don't know if it's real video

3786
02:35:27,429 --> 02:35:24,880
i do know the day after

3787
02:35:29,670 --> 02:35:27,439
they confiscated all the video from the

3788
02:35:31,510 --> 02:35:29,680
gas station that's across the street

3789
02:35:33,990 --> 02:35:31,520
that has a camera

3790
02:35:34,870 --> 02:35:34,000
all the security cam video that was in

3791
02:35:37,670 --> 02:35:34,880
all the

3792
02:35:40,630 --> 02:35:37,680
pentagon security booths all comp the

3793
02:35:43,270 --> 02:35:40,640
day after but i saw some of that video

3794
02:35:45,910 --> 02:35:43,280
whether it's real or not i don't know

3795
02:35:47,830 --> 02:35:45,920
so when i was in go ahead wait a minute

3796
02:35:50,469 --> 02:35:47,840
so you were in center court you were in

3797
02:35:53,110 --> 02:35:50,479
the center of the pentagon in the uh

3798
02:35:55,830 --> 02:35:53,120
where they have uh uh you can yeah the

3799
02:35:58,790 --> 02:35:55,840
little hamburger stamp yeah that's where

3800
02:36:01,030 --> 02:35:58,800
i was and i'm a smoker so i was out

3801
02:36:04,550 --> 02:36:01,040
there smoking a cigarette what was your

3802
02:36:06,550 --> 02:36:04,560
job what did you do there

3803
02:36:09,349 --> 02:36:06,560
well i still work for the department of

3804
02:36:12,389 --> 02:36:09,359
defense but back then i was

3805
02:36:14,630 --> 02:36:12,399
a computer guy working for the dod comp

3806
02:36:16,710 --> 02:36:14,640
troller the people who do the dod

3807
02:36:18,790 --> 02:36:16,720
budgets right

3808
02:36:21,429 --> 02:36:18,800
i don't do that now i work for the air

3809
02:36:22,309 --> 02:36:21,439
force now but still

3810
02:36:24,790 --> 02:36:22,319
like

3811
02:36:26,389 --> 02:36:24,800
person what did you hear what did you

3812
02:36:29,910 --> 02:36:26,399
see

3813
02:36:31,990 --> 02:36:29,920
so there we were in my office

3814
02:36:34,389 --> 02:36:32,000
in the basement of the pentagon and you

3815
02:36:35,429 --> 02:36:34,399
know we knew about the first plane

3816
02:36:36,950 --> 02:36:35,439
hitting

3817
02:36:39,270 --> 02:36:36,960
the towers

3818
02:36:40,710 --> 02:36:39,280
and i thought oh what's that another i

3819
02:36:42,710 --> 02:36:40,720
don't know if you remember but like the

3820
02:36:45,349 --> 02:36:42,720
week before there was this story about

3821
02:36:46,230 --> 02:36:45,359
this private pilot guy who fell asleep

3822
02:36:48,630 --> 02:36:46,240
and

3823
02:36:51,830 --> 02:36:48,640
his plane sailing westward across

3824
02:36:53,030 --> 02:36:51,840
america and you know nobody's flying it

3825
02:36:54,950 --> 02:36:53,040
and

3826
02:36:56,630 --> 02:36:54,960
i i don't remember what happened to that

3827
02:36:59,429 --> 02:36:56,640
story it's like the pilot was

3828
02:37:01,990 --> 02:36:59,439
unconscious or something but when when

3829
02:37:05,030 --> 02:37:02,000
the plane hit the towers i thought what

3830
02:37:07,990 --> 02:37:05,040
did that happen again and we're talking

3831
02:37:11,030 --> 02:37:08,000
about it and then the second one hit

3832
02:37:12,389 --> 02:37:11,040
i'm like no way you know what's going on

3833
02:37:14,550 --> 02:37:12,399
here right

3834
02:37:17,030 --> 02:37:14,560
and and that's when i decided i'm going

3835
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to go out to center court because out in

3836
02:37:20,389 --> 02:37:18,720
the center court

3837
02:37:22,550 --> 02:37:20,399
like i said i was out there smoking a

3838
02:37:23,429 --> 02:37:22,560
cigarette you get to talk there's lots

3839
02:37:25,750 --> 02:37:23,439
of

3840
02:37:27,510 --> 02:37:25,760
different people smoking high level

3841
02:37:28,870 --> 02:37:27,520
people different branches of the

3842
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military

3843
02:37:35,270 --> 02:37:32,720
you know information kind of

3844
02:37:37,670 --> 02:37:35,280
gets passed in center court because

3845
02:37:40,070 --> 02:37:37,680
you're with all the so i'm out there and

3846
02:37:44,389 --> 02:37:40,080
we're talking about it

3847
02:37:45,830 --> 02:37:44,399
and uh it's about 9 30 a.m

3848
02:37:48,389 --> 02:37:45,840
and

3849
02:37:49,510 --> 02:37:48,399
planes would fly over the pentagon just

3850
02:37:52,230 --> 02:37:49,520
over the

3851
02:37:55,349 --> 02:37:52,240
eastern side all the time landing at

3852
02:37:58,070 --> 02:37:55,359
national airport you'd always see that

3853
02:38:00,469 --> 02:37:58,080
but this plane i spotted was like

3854
02:38:03,190 --> 02:38:00,479
westerly way up high

3855
02:38:05,110 --> 02:38:03,200
and i actually made a joke because it

3856
02:38:07,030 --> 02:38:05,120
was circling

3857
02:38:09,830 --> 02:38:07,040
you know and i'm like that's not landing

3858
02:38:11,910 --> 02:38:09,840
and i made a joke oh here's another one

3859
02:38:13,670 --> 02:38:11,920
inbound to the pentagon at that time it

3860
02:38:15,670 --> 02:38:13,680
was a joke because it was

3861
02:38:18,790 --> 02:38:15,680
you know probably like

3862
02:38:20,630 --> 02:38:18,800
it was way up way out to the west

3863
02:38:22,630 --> 02:38:20,640
and then all of a sudden it started

3864
02:38:25,110 --> 02:38:22,640
heading towards us and i'm looking at

3865
02:38:28,070 --> 02:38:25,120
this thing and i'm like oh [\h__\h] there is

3866
02:38:30,790 --> 02:38:28,080
a plane coming at the pentagon

3867
02:38:32,870 --> 02:38:30,800
and from center court if i'm looking up

3868
02:38:34,870 --> 02:38:32,880
you got to know that my line of sight

3869
02:38:36,070 --> 02:38:34,880
you know what i mean i'm looking at the

3870
02:38:37,910 --> 02:38:36,080
the roof

3871
02:38:40,389 --> 02:38:37,920
of the inner ring

3872
02:38:43,429 --> 02:38:40,399
at some point that airplane went below

3873
02:38:46,630 --> 02:38:43,439
that roof line i couldn't see it anymore

3874
02:38:49,270 --> 02:38:46,640
but it was circling circling

3875
02:38:51,750 --> 02:38:49,280
and then it i lost my line of sight as

3876
02:38:53,110 --> 02:38:51,760
it went below the you know the horizon

3877
02:38:56,150 --> 02:38:53,120
line of this

3878
02:38:57,429 --> 02:38:56,160
building because i'm in the looking up

3879
02:39:00,070 --> 02:38:57,439
and then like

3880
02:39:03,270 --> 02:39:00,080
two seconds after that

3881
02:39:06,150 --> 02:39:03,280
the loudest noise and nuclear mushroom

3882
02:39:08,150 --> 02:39:06,160
bomb i've ever seen in my life just the

3883
02:39:10,790 --> 02:39:08,160
entire

3884
02:39:13,590 --> 02:39:10,800
this black cloud went up

3885
02:39:16,230 --> 02:39:13,600
with rolling red

3886
02:39:18,389 --> 02:39:16,240
fire in it it was the meanest looking

3887
02:39:19,670 --> 02:39:18,399
and the loudest noise i've ever heard in

3888
02:39:22,150 --> 02:39:19,680
my life

3889
02:39:23,750 --> 02:39:22,160
and then i heard zing just

3890
02:39:26,550 --> 02:39:23,760
passed my ears

3891
02:39:29,270 --> 02:39:26,560
it was the tiles and the glass of the

3892
02:39:31,510 --> 02:39:29,280
inner ring got blasted out and came

3893
02:39:34,389 --> 02:39:31,520
flying by us

3894
02:39:36,630 --> 02:39:34,399
and my first thought is

3895
02:39:38,790 --> 02:39:36,640
the debris from that black mushroom

3896
02:39:39,590 --> 02:39:38,800
cloud is going to come raining down on

3897
02:39:41,670 --> 02:39:39,600
us

3898
02:39:43,590 --> 02:39:41,680
so everybody tried to run for these

3899
02:39:45,190 --> 02:39:43,600
little overhangs

3900
02:39:46,550 --> 02:39:45,200
and i can remember

3901
02:39:48,950 --> 02:39:46,560
i ran

3902
02:39:52,389 --> 02:39:48,960
in the opposite direction as everybody

3903
02:39:54,309 --> 02:39:52,399
around me to get under this overhang

3904
02:39:55,910 --> 02:39:54,319
and you got to give it to the military

3905
02:39:58,790 --> 02:39:55,920
because if i'm running behind this

3906
02:40:01,270 --> 02:39:58,800
military i'm a contractor

3907
02:40:02,389 --> 02:40:01,280
this military guy we all ran and then he

3908
02:40:07,270 --> 02:40:02,399
his

3909
02:40:08,630 --> 02:40:07,280
because then he stopped he turned around

3910
02:40:10,870 --> 02:40:08,640
and ran

3911
02:40:13,190 --> 02:40:10,880
went straight into the fire you know he

3912
02:40:15,670 --> 02:40:13,200
turned i guess he at first thought save

3913
02:40:17,910 --> 02:40:15,680
myself and then he thought i'm good you

3914
02:40:21,910 --> 02:40:17,920
know i'm going to see you know he went

3915
02:40:23,349 --> 02:40:21,920
towards the side that got hit

3916
02:40:25,830 --> 02:40:23,359
but uh

3917
02:40:27,830 --> 02:40:25,840
i can't say i saw the plane hit because

3918
02:40:31,750 --> 02:40:27,840
i'm on the inner ring and it obviously

3919
02:40:35,110 --> 02:40:31,760
hit on the outer ring but i saw a plane

3920
02:40:36,710 --> 02:40:35,120
in an unusual part of the sky

3921
02:40:39,349 --> 02:40:36,720
circling

3922
02:40:42,230 --> 02:40:39,359
and then two seconds after it went below

3923
02:40:44,550 --> 02:40:42,240
the horizon a giant mushroom cloud i

3924
02:40:47,030 --> 02:40:44,560
don't know maybe that was a hologram i

3925
02:40:48,469 --> 02:40:47,040
saw i don't know okay well david let me

3926
02:40:51,030 --> 02:40:48,479
let me ask you a couple of questions

3927
02:40:52,550 --> 02:40:51,040
here did you did you get outside what

3928
02:40:54,710 --> 02:40:52,560
did you and

3929
02:40:57,429 --> 02:40:54,720
well that's the first question

3930
02:41:00,070 --> 02:40:57,439
where did you go next

3931
02:41:02,630 --> 02:41:00,080
well the first thing i tried to do was

3932
02:41:04,790 --> 02:41:02,640
i ran back to my office to tell

3933
02:41:07,429 --> 02:41:04,800
everybody my god a plane just hit the

3934
02:41:09,429 --> 02:41:07,439
pentagon and i still had my cigarette

3935
02:41:11,830 --> 02:41:09,439
when i got to the house like oh [\h__\h] i'm

3936
02:41:13,830 --> 02:41:11,840
not supposed to have this okay

3937
02:41:15,510 --> 02:41:13,840
and then i tried

3938
02:41:18,150 --> 02:41:15,520
okay go ahead

3939
02:41:20,150 --> 02:41:18,160
tried to call home and of course all the

3940
02:41:21,830 --> 02:41:20,160
cell phone signals were jammed i

3941
02:41:24,710 --> 02:41:21,840
couldn't call home

3942
02:41:27,750 --> 02:41:24,720
and then i started to walk

3943
02:41:30,630 --> 02:41:27,760
to the metro i took the metro train the

3944
02:41:33,269 --> 02:41:30,640
public transportation but the pentagon

3945
02:41:34,950 --> 02:41:33,279
station was closed so i walked across

3946
02:41:36,870 --> 02:41:34,960
the street to

3947
02:41:37,990 --> 02:41:36,880
what's called crystal city it's just

3948
02:41:40,230 --> 02:41:38,000
some

3949
02:41:42,710 --> 02:41:40,240
you know uh high-rise buildings across

3950
02:41:45,110 --> 02:41:42,720
the street they have a metro entrance it

3951
02:41:47,990 --> 02:41:45,120
was just mobbed with people

3952
02:41:50,550 --> 02:41:48,000
and finally i did get a cell phone

3953
02:41:53,030 --> 02:41:50,560
call through to my brother who

3954
02:41:55,670 --> 02:41:53,040
lived in alexandria virginia and he came

3955
02:41:59,030 --> 02:41:55,680
and picked me up well didn't anybody

3956
02:42:02,309 --> 02:41:59,040
didn't anybody stop you or or

3957
02:42:06,309 --> 02:42:02,319
a question or or ask you know what you

3958
02:42:09,110 --> 02:42:06,319
saw wasn't there any of that going on

3959
02:42:11,510 --> 02:42:09,120
at the moment of the impact

3960
02:42:14,150 --> 02:42:11,520
no everybody started running for the

3961
02:42:15,590 --> 02:42:14,160
doors no i mean afterwards i mean

3962
02:42:18,389 --> 02:42:15,600
afterwards

3963
02:42:21,269 --> 02:42:18,399
you were able to freely leave uh the

3964
02:42:23,349 --> 02:42:21,279
pentagon nobody stopped you yeah on that

3965
02:42:25,190 --> 02:42:23,359
day i went home well i went to my

3966
02:42:27,830 --> 02:42:25,200
brother's house in alexandria and we

3967
02:42:30,389 --> 02:42:27,840
turned the tv on and watched it

3968
02:42:32,710 --> 02:42:30,399
but the next day

3969
02:42:35,830 --> 02:42:32,720
there were reporters all over the place

3970
02:42:37,670 --> 02:42:35,840
and they were all wanting to talk to us

3971
02:42:39,830 --> 02:42:37,680
and ask what did you see what did you

3972
02:42:41,750 --> 02:42:39,840
know all my colleagues who were not they

3973
02:42:44,070 --> 02:42:41,760
did not see it you know that i could see

3974
02:42:45,830 --> 02:42:44,080
them talking to this news station that

3975
02:42:49,429 --> 02:42:45,840
news station

3976
02:42:51,510 --> 02:42:49,439
i didn't talk to any of them i

3977
02:42:53,670 --> 02:42:51,520
didn't want to it's like it

3978
02:42:56,230 --> 02:42:53,680
it took your speaker friends pulling

3979
02:42:58,550 --> 02:42:56,240
teeth just to get me to call you

3980
02:43:01,030 --> 02:42:58,560
well i didn't want to talk to them you

3981
02:43:03,670 --> 02:43:01,040
know i was still in shock well that's

3982
02:43:05,110 --> 02:43:03,680
fine that's fine uh but uh what about

3983
02:43:10,230 --> 02:43:05,120
the

3984
02:43:11,990 --> 02:43:10,240
which looks like

3985
02:43:14,230 --> 02:43:12,000
nothing scraped the ground or there

3986
02:43:16,230 --> 02:43:14,240
wasn't a gouge were you

3987
02:43:18,150 --> 02:43:16,240
uh able to check that out did you walk

3988
02:43:20,309 --> 02:43:18,160
around and look at the front of the the

3989
02:43:22,870 --> 02:43:20,319
pentagon where the impact was

3990
02:43:25,349 --> 02:43:22,880
oh yeah i did more than that but before

3991
02:43:28,230 --> 02:43:25,359
i say that on the day it happened so

3992
02:43:30,469 --> 02:43:28,240
this explosion happens and as i'm

3993
02:43:33,590 --> 02:43:30,479
leaving and i turn around and i look and

3994
02:43:34,950 --> 02:43:33,600
i see the giant impact and the fire and

3995
02:43:38,469 --> 02:43:34,960
smoke

3996
02:43:39,750 --> 02:43:38,479
but it was like 30 minutes later uh

3997
02:43:42,469 --> 02:43:39,760
a wedge

3998
02:43:44,630 --> 02:43:42,479
fell down and made this second loud boom

3999
02:43:47,190 --> 02:43:44,640
that just panicked everybody it was just

4000
02:43:49,349 --> 02:43:47,200
i guess one of the walls or roofs

4001
02:43:51,830 --> 02:43:49,359
that's caved in

4002
02:43:54,950 --> 02:43:51,840
but um

4003
02:43:57,670 --> 02:43:54,960
so the day after

4004
02:43:59,269 --> 02:43:57,680
the the comptroller i worked for we had

4005
02:44:02,469 --> 02:43:59,279
a little meeting and they're all in

4006
02:44:04,710 --> 02:44:02,479
their rubber gloves and their spacesuits

4007
02:44:07,349 --> 02:44:04,720
and i'm wearing nothing i'm like

4008
02:44:09,349 --> 02:44:07,359
20 something years old and i'm like why

4009
02:44:11,750 --> 02:44:09,359
are you guys wearing hazmat suits and

4010
02:44:13,269 --> 02:44:11,760
i'm not and they ordered me to go in

4011
02:44:16,870 --> 02:44:13,279
there

4012
02:44:19,750 --> 02:44:16,880
and collect all the computers

4013
02:44:22,790 --> 02:44:19,760
in that section of the building and

4014
02:44:25,429 --> 02:44:22,800
they said if you see any airplane parts

4015
02:44:27,830 --> 02:44:25,439
pick them up and pile them in this pile

4016
02:44:30,950 --> 02:44:27,840
here and i did find

4017
02:44:32,950 --> 02:44:30,960
like airplane seat cushions

4018
02:44:35,110 --> 02:44:32,960
i found i don't know you know people say

4019
02:44:37,349 --> 02:44:35,120
there was no airplane parts but they

4020
02:44:39,510 --> 02:44:37,359
collected them all up

4021
02:44:41,429 --> 02:44:39,520
i got some they said put them in this

4022
02:44:42,630 --> 02:44:41,439
pile what they did with them i don't

4023
02:44:45,510 --> 02:44:42,640
know but

4024
02:44:47,670 --> 02:44:45,520
they looked like airplane seat cushions

4025
02:44:50,550 --> 02:44:47,680
and pieces of metal

4026
02:44:51,990 --> 02:44:50,560
they said to us get all the computers

4027
02:44:54,070 --> 02:44:52,000
pull them out

4028
02:44:57,110 --> 02:44:54,080
and anything that looks like an airplane

4029
02:44:59,269 --> 02:44:57,120
part and pile them in this pile

4030
02:45:01,830 --> 02:44:59,279
you know the pentagon that's got like

4031
02:45:04,389 --> 02:45:01,840
between each ring it's like an outside

4032
02:45:06,790 --> 02:45:04,399
section so it's like we're piling them

4033
02:45:08,469 --> 02:45:06,800
in between the the rings which was like

4034
02:45:10,550 --> 02:45:08,479
outside but it's

4035
02:45:13,030 --> 02:45:10,560
actually in the building right right

4036
02:45:14,950 --> 02:45:13,040
right and what they did with that stuff

4037
02:45:17,510 --> 02:45:14,960
i don't know but they

4038
02:45:19,030 --> 02:45:17,520
had us go in there and

4039
02:45:21,670 --> 02:45:19,040
uh

4040
02:45:24,070 --> 02:45:21,680
it's i don't know if it was an airplane

4041
02:45:27,750 --> 02:45:24,080
seat but they weren't like office seats

4042
02:45:32,469 --> 02:45:30,309
they looked like like buffs or defeats

4043
02:45:33,670 --> 02:45:32,479
and you know there was just fragments of

4044
02:45:36,550 --> 02:45:33,680
it and

4045
02:45:38,550 --> 02:45:36,560
pieces of metal i forget which color

4046
02:45:40,950 --> 02:45:38,560
you know they're like any kind of metal

4047
02:45:43,670 --> 02:45:40,960
might have just been white white metal

4048
02:45:46,230 --> 02:45:43,680
and had us pile it all in a stack in

4049
02:45:49,030 --> 02:45:46,240
this place in between

4050
02:45:50,630 --> 02:45:49,040
pentagon rings which was like outside

4051
02:45:53,349 --> 02:45:50,640
really but you know what i mean yeah

4052
02:45:55,750 --> 02:45:53,359
it's a little courtyard in between

4053
02:45:56,870 --> 02:45:55,760
well not the courtyards but yeah each

4054
02:45:59,670 --> 02:45:56,880
ring

4055
02:46:01,269 --> 02:45:59,680
has an open area as an out yet open out

4056
02:46:03,990 --> 02:46:01,279
i mean you can look up and see the sky

4057
02:46:06,230 --> 02:46:04,000
but actually not anymore it's all closed

4058
02:46:07,510 --> 02:46:06,240
off now the other comment i wanted to

4059
02:46:09,990 --> 02:46:07,520
make is

4060
02:46:11,590 --> 02:46:10,000
the section it hit was just freshly

4061
02:46:14,150 --> 02:46:11,600
renovated

4062
02:46:16,309 --> 02:46:14,160
you know uh there were not many people

4063
02:46:20,070 --> 02:46:16,319
they were just starting to move back in

4064
02:46:23,990 --> 02:46:20,080
it was all reinforced freshly renovated

4065
02:46:26,469 --> 02:46:24,000
and you know i don't believe the 9-1-1

4066
02:46:28,550 --> 02:46:26,479
report and i think our government knew

4067
02:46:30,150 --> 02:46:28,560
something and something stinks about the

4068
02:46:32,630 --> 02:46:30,160
whole story

4069
02:46:35,269 --> 02:46:32,640
you know like freshly renovated like

4070
02:46:36,950 --> 02:46:35,279
what a perfect time to plant explosives

4071
02:46:38,389 --> 02:46:36,960
and stuff you know if something like

4072
02:46:40,309 --> 02:46:38,399
that did happen

4073
02:46:44,469 --> 02:46:40,319
but they should have done it during the

4074
02:46:48,150 --> 02:46:44,479
uh renovation david i i have uh

4075
02:46:49,030 --> 02:46:48,160
a question here if you were able to

4076
02:46:52,870 --> 02:46:49,040
find

4077
02:46:55,349 --> 02:46:52,880
pieces of seat cushions and seats

4078
02:46:58,070 --> 02:46:55,359
what about body parts weren't there any

4079
02:46:58,080 --> 02:47:01,349
you know there were

4080
02:47:08,389 --> 02:47:05,349
i was instructed not to touch that

4081
02:47:09,910 --> 02:47:08,399
i didn't see a lot of that

4082
02:47:12,309 --> 02:47:09,920
you know but i know

4083
02:47:13,110 --> 02:47:12,319
other colleagues said they came across

4084
02:47:16,150 --> 02:47:13,120
some

4085
02:47:18,870 --> 02:47:16,160
but we'll say this the next day

4086
02:47:20,950 --> 02:47:18,880
i went to work on that wednesday

4087
02:47:23,750 --> 02:47:20,960
there were

4088
02:47:24,790 --> 02:47:23,760
what i imagined were bodies under white

4089
02:47:26,710 --> 02:47:24,800
sheets

4090
02:47:28,230 --> 02:47:26,720
in center court

4091
02:47:30,790 --> 02:47:28,240
so

4092
02:47:33,750 --> 02:47:30,800
we were not sent in there to get bodies

4093
02:47:37,110 --> 02:47:33,760
but somebody was there all night long

4094
02:47:39,110 --> 02:47:37,120
getting bodies because the next day

4095
02:47:41,349 --> 02:47:39,120
there were bodies in central court it

4096
02:47:42,710 --> 02:47:41,359
was like a makeshift morgue

4097
02:47:44,710 --> 02:47:42,720
you know there were

4098
02:47:47,670 --> 02:47:44,720
seems like

4099
02:47:48,950 --> 02:47:47,680
i don't know 20 or 30 quite a few white

4100
02:47:50,870 --> 02:47:48,960
sheets

4101
02:47:52,950 --> 02:47:50,880
that were probably

4102
02:47:57,110 --> 02:47:52,960
bodies but

4103
02:47:59,190 --> 02:47:57,120
um i didn't see any when i went in there

4104
02:48:01,510 --> 02:47:59,200
you know probably what because i was it

4105
02:48:03,349 --> 02:48:01,520
was the next day that i'm sent in there

4106
02:48:05,750 --> 02:48:03,359
to get computers

4107
02:48:08,309 --> 02:48:05,760
it was probably that previous night that

4108
02:48:10,550 --> 02:48:08,319
they were pulling bodies out

4109
02:48:11,670 --> 02:48:10,560
but uh

4110
02:48:14,150 --> 02:48:11,680
it was a

4111
02:48:18,309 --> 02:48:14,160
terrible day you know and uh

4112
02:48:23,269 --> 02:48:18,319
what about shoes or clothes or luggage i

4113
02:48:29,030 --> 02:48:25,429
the part of the building that was deemed

4114
02:48:31,590 --> 02:48:29,040
unsafe to go in it was the day after

4115
02:48:34,950 --> 02:48:31,600
which was you know i wasn't allowed to

4116
02:48:39,269 --> 02:48:36,790
all the way up

4117
02:48:41,830 --> 02:48:39,279
you know like there was still

4118
02:48:44,309 --> 02:48:41,840
walls and structure you know i mean i

4119
02:48:47,429 --> 02:48:44,319
didn't go into where there was probably

4120
02:48:49,990 --> 02:48:47,439
just cinder and ash how did the

4121
02:48:52,070 --> 02:48:50,000
how did these parts get into your part

4122
02:48:54,389 --> 02:48:52,080
of the building uh you were working for

4123
02:48:55,190 --> 02:48:54,399
the comptroller you're a computer guy

4124
02:48:58,550 --> 02:48:55,200
um

4125
02:49:01,349 --> 02:48:58,560
how did these parts get into your

4126
02:49:04,469 --> 02:49:01,359
offices were below where the impact site

4127
02:49:07,269 --> 02:49:04,479
was i'm i'm trying to understand

4128
02:49:10,150 --> 02:49:07,279
my office was in the basement on the

4129
02:49:12,710 --> 02:49:10,160
opposite side right but my

4130
02:49:15,190 --> 02:49:12,720
my client the comptroller they were in

4131
02:49:18,630 --> 02:49:15,200
offices all over the pentagon but

4132
02:49:20,710 --> 02:49:18,640
primarily on the e-ring the uh

4133
02:49:23,510 --> 02:49:20,720
the comptroller herself was on the

4134
02:49:25,510 --> 02:49:23,520
e-ring on the opposite side but we had

4135
02:49:27,590 --> 02:49:25,520
some offices

4136
02:49:30,230 --> 02:49:27,600
that were right next to the part that

4137
02:49:33,269 --> 02:49:30,240
got hit and it was they were sending me

4138
02:49:34,950 --> 02:49:33,279
in to get our computers the comptroller

4139
02:49:39,349 --> 02:49:34,960
computers and we had

4140
02:49:42,070 --> 02:49:39,359
like six or eight offices that were

4141
02:49:45,590 --> 02:49:42,080
you know like half a corridor away from

4142
02:49:47,990 --> 02:49:45,600
the this corridor that got demolished

4143
02:49:51,190 --> 02:49:48,000
and uh so i wasn't actually walking

4144
02:49:53,269 --> 02:49:51,200
through the ash and cinder where uh all

4145
02:49:56,230 --> 02:49:53,279
the firemen were still there the next

4146
02:49:58,550 --> 02:49:56,240
day that thing burned for smoldered for

4147
02:50:01,429 --> 02:49:58,560
a few days if i remember

4148
02:50:03,670 --> 02:50:01,439
and i also remember lots of water you

4149
02:50:06,070 --> 02:50:03,680
know uh

4150
02:50:08,309 --> 02:50:06,080
there was a water damage throughout the

4151
02:50:10,950 --> 02:50:08,319
pentagon from all the fire hoses and

4152
02:50:13,910 --> 02:50:10,960
stuff you know on that like half the

4153
02:50:14,630 --> 02:50:13,920
pentagon was leaking water

4154
02:50:16,230 --> 02:50:14,640
but

4155
02:50:18,469 --> 02:50:16,240
i just wanted to

4156
02:50:20,870 --> 02:50:18,479
let people know

4157
02:50:22,870 --> 02:50:20,880
there was a plane circling coming

4158
02:50:25,190 --> 02:50:22,880
towards the pentagon

4159
02:50:28,230 --> 02:50:25,200
and then there was an explosion but my

4160
02:50:30,309 --> 02:50:28,240
eyeballs didn't actually see

4161
02:50:32,150 --> 02:50:30,319
the plane hit because obviously i'm on

4162
02:50:33,990 --> 02:50:32,160
the e-ring and it's on the you know

4163
02:50:38,710 --> 02:50:34,000
outside of the building

4164
02:50:40,870 --> 02:50:38,720
i just saw it coming in at full speed

4165
02:50:42,870 --> 02:50:40,880
and then as just as it went below the

4166
02:50:45,510 --> 02:50:42,880
horizon

4167
02:50:48,389 --> 02:50:45,520
like five seconds later this huge like

4168
02:50:51,910 --> 02:50:48,399
nuclear mushroom cloud just rolling up

4169
02:50:54,230 --> 02:50:51,920
in the air and it uh

4170
02:50:57,510 --> 02:50:54,240
what else happened that day i mean a lot

4171
02:51:00,070 --> 02:50:57,520
of events happened and um

4172
02:51:02,389 --> 02:51:00,080
wow well you know i want to thank you uh

4173
02:51:05,590 --> 02:51:02,399
for calling in and

4174
02:51:08,070 --> 02:51:05,600
uh maybe uh uh another show uh we'll

4175
02:51:10,710 --> 02:51:08,080
take this a little bit uh further but i

4176
02:51:13,030 --> 02:51:10,720
i really appreciate that and

4177
02:51:15,910 --> 02:51:13,040
uh yeah you're the first person that i

4178
02:51:16,710 --> 02:51:15,920
have talked to that was there that day

4179
02:51:18,230 --> 02:51:16,720
so

4180
02:51:20,630 --> 02:51:18,240
there you go you know and they made a

4181
02:51:22,630 --> 02:51:20,640
point of making us come to work because

4182
02:51:24,550 --> 02:51:22,640
i didn't want to come to work and i

4183
02:51:27,269 --> 02:51:24,560
think it was all that we got to show the

4184
02:51:29,590 --> 02:51:27,279
enemy they can't mock us that work

4185
02:51:31,670 --> 02:51:29,600
you know we're back to working

4186
02:51:33,269 --> 02:51:31,680
the next day

4187
02:51:34,870 --> 02:51:33,279
but or it was just because they knew

4188
02:51:37,030 --> 02:51:34,880
they were going to send me in there to

4189
02:51:38,309 --> 02:51:37,040
grab all their computers and see if they

4190
02:51:41,269 --> 02:51:38,319
found any

4191
02:51:43,429 --> 02:51:41,279
plain parts and the only playing part i

4192
02:51:45,830 --> 02:51:43,439
found was a piece of metal

4193
02:51:48,469 --> 02:51:45,840
and like half of a cushion that looked

4194
02:51:49,670 --> 02:51:48,479
like it could be a plane seat

4195
02:51:51,990 --> 02:51:49,680
and uh

4196
02:51:55,590 --> 02:51:52,000
we were told to pile it up in this place

4197
02:51:58,469 --> 02:51:55,600
there was a pile that we got that was

4198
02:52:01,030 --> 02:51:58,479
would like half fill a dumpster

4199
02:52:02,550 --> 02:52:01,040
and this was just these you know eight

4200
02:52:04,550 --> 02:52:02,560
or nine people working for the

4201
02:52:07,030 --> 02:52:04,560
comptroller they sent on in there you

4202
02:52:09,990 --> 02:52:07,040
know who knows who else was in there

4203
02:52:11,990 --> 02:52:10,000
sanitizing the evidence you know right

4204
02:52:14,070 --> 02:52:12,000
right but uh

4205
02:52:15,910 --> 02:52:14,080
i think it's interesting how it hit the

4206
02:52:18,309 --> 02:52:15,920
renovated section

4207
02:52:20,389 --> 02:52:18,319
you know uh yeah it's the one that they

4208
02:52:23,429 --> 02:52:20,399
planted all their little

4209
02:52:25,349 --> 02:52:23,439
uh incendiary devices

4210
02:52:27,910 --> 02:52:25,359
in the walls and everything so it would

4211
02:52:29,750 --> 02:52:27,920
burn real good when when the event

4212
02:52:31,429 --> 02:52:29,760
happened

4213
02:52:33,110 --> 02:52:31,439
uh wow

4214
02:52:34,710 --> 02:52:33,120
and there and like i said there was not

4215
02:52:36,950 --> 02:52:34,720
a lot of people and they were just

4216
02:52:38,469 --> 02:52:36,960
starting to move back in otherwise there

4217
02:52:40,950 --> 02:52:38,479
would have been

4218
02:52:42,550 --> 02:52:40,960
many more died in the pentagon i forget

4219
02:52:44,389 --> 02:52:42,560
what the number was but it would have

4220
02:52:45,990 --> 02:52:44,399
been way more

4221
02:52:48,230 --> 02:52:46,000
if it was fully

4222
02:52:50,469 --> 02:52:48,240
staffed and people had moved back into

4223
02:52:53,830 --> 02:52:50,479
their newly renovated office

4224
02:52:56,150 --> 02:52:53,840
they were just starting to move back in

4225
02:52:58,309 --> 02:52:56,160
which is sort of coincidental and i

4226
02:53:01,190 --> 02:52:58,319
don't believe in coincidences you know

4227
02:53:04,469 --> 02:53:01,200
that it hit that section right that they

4228
02:53:06,389 --> 02:53:04,479
knew was the sparsely populated section

4229
02:53:08,630 --> 02:53:06,399
did you know anybody that died in the

4230
02:53:10,389 --> 02:53:08,640
pentagon

4231
02:53:12,790 --> 02:53:10,399
i had some acquaintances

4232
02:53:15,590 --> 02:53:12,800
that died in

4233
02:53:17,030 --> 02:53:15,600
in the pentagon and uh

4234
02:53:19,510 --> 02:53:17,040
on and

4235
02:53:21,590 --> 02:53:19,520
even some of the there was a

4236
02:53:23,750 --> 02:53:21,600
on the airplane that hit there was some

4237
02:53:25,910 --> 02:53:23,760
like school children and a friend of

4238
02:53:27,030 --> 02:53:25,920
mine's kid got killed was one of the

4239
02:53:29,190 --> 02:53:27,040
students

4240
02:53:31,990 --> 02:53:29,200
there was like a classroom of kids on an

4241
02:53:32,870 --> 02:53:32,000
airplane on that airplane and

4242
02:53:34,550 --> 02:53:32,880
but

4243
02:53:37,190 --> 02:53:34,560
they weren't friends that i knew there

4244
02:53:39,429 --> 02:53:37,200
were acquaintances that i knew

4245
02:53:42,469 --> 02:53:39,439
from working at the pentagon there like

4246
02:53:44,630 --> 02:53:42,479
two or three people i knew

4247
02:53:47,910 --> 02:53:44,640
and uh they have

4248
02:53:50,790 --> 02:53:47,920
and still have memorials every year

4249
02:53:52,870 --> 02:53:50,800
i still work at the pentagon sometimes

4250
02:53:55,269 --> 02:53:52,880
it's from there or andrews air force

4251
02:53:58,309 --> 02:53:55,279
base or this other air force base but i

4252
02:54:00,630 --> 02:53:58,319
met the pentagon periodically but

4253
02:54:02,389 --> 02:54:00,640
the years after when i was still working

4254
02:54:05,590 --> 02:54:02,399
there and they'd have their 911

4255
02:54:08,389 --> 02:54:05,600
commemoration and they'd have a flyover

4256
02:54:10,309 --> 02:54:08,399
people would complain about that because

4257
02:54:12,550 --> 02:54:10,319
people would freak out

4258
02:54:15,269 --> 02:54:12,560
you know a year later and airplanes are

4259
02:54:17,590 --> 02:54:15,279
flying over and it was a commemoration

4260
02:54:19,429 --> 02:54:17,600
but people would freak out still people

4261
02:54:21,590 --> 02:54:19,439
were shell-shocked a lot of people

4262
02:54:22,950 --> 02:54:21,600
couldn't go back to work after that day

4263
02:54:25,830 --> 02:54:22,960
but

4264
02:54:27,110 --> 02:54:25,840
anyway wow thank you it was there yeah

4265
02:54:31,429 --> 02:54:27,120
it happened

4266
02:54:33,269 --> 02:54:31,439
well thank you for that did the uh

4267
02:54:36,389 --> 02:54:33,279
were you ever

4268
02:54:39,670 --> 02:54:36,399
asked to come in and and give a debrief

4269
02:54:42,309 --> 02:54:39,680
and i would imagine that i mean every

4270
02:54:44,389 --> 02:54:42,319
pentagon employee had to uh

4271
02:54:46,389 --> 02:54:44,399
you know discuss this and then also

4272
02:54:48,309 --> 02:54:46,399
maybe sign off

4273
02:54:52,070 --> 02:54:48,319
a non-disclosure agreements that you

4274
02:54:55,030 --> 02:54:52,080
wouldn't discuss this with anybody else

4275
02:54:58,230 --> 02:54:55,040
we were we had a meeting with our client

4276
02:55:00,630 --> 02:54:58,240
the comptroller that

4277
02:55:03,190 --> 02:55:00,640
mostly it was to you know is anybody

4278
02:55:04,469 --> 02:55:03,200
upset we offer counseling and that kind

4279
02:55:05,349 --> 02:55:04,479
of thing

4280
02:55:07,190 --> 02:55:05,359
there

4281
02:55:08,230 --> 02:55:07,200
uh

4282
02:55:43,349 --> 02:55:08,240
i

4283
02:55:45,670 --> 02:55:43,359
that they just knew

4284
02:55:47,429 --> 02:55:45,680
do your job and if you ever speak of it

4285
02:55:49,590 --> 02:55:47,439
nobody's going to believe you anyway or

4286
02:55:53,110 --> 02:55:49,600
something i don't know but no we weren't

4287
02:55:54,230 --> 02:55:53,120
officially told that we had a meeting

4288
02:55:56,309 --> 02:55:54,240
and uh

4289
02:55:58,630 --> 02:55:56,319
mainly it was if you need counseling and

4290
02:56:01,030 --> 02:55:58,640
that but i will say this security

4291
02:56:03,349 --> 02:56:01,040
changed after that day we were all

4292
02:56:05,429 --> 02:56:03,359
issued gas masks

4293
02:56:07,670 --> 02:56:05,439
what where we used to just be able to

4294
02:56:10,230 --> 02:56:07,680
walk in and flash our badge you know

4295
02:56:12,230 --> 02:56:10,240
when a guard would look at it

4296
02:56:15,110 --> 02:56:12,240
they got rid of that and then it became

4297
02:56:17,429 --> 02:56:15,120
like smart cards you had to swipe

4298
02:56:18,630 --> 02:56:17,439
you know the security really tightened

4299
02:56:21,750 --> 02:56:18,640
up

4300
02:56:23,750 --> 02:56:21,760
after that day at the pentagon and

4301
02:56:26,469 --> 02:56:23,760
i mean you used to be able to when i was

4302
02:56:28,550 --> 02:56:26,479
a kid and my dad worked there

4303
02:56:30,870 --> 02:56:28,560
anybody could walk into the pentagon it

4304
02:56:31,990 --> 02:56:30,880
was a public mall you know

4305
02:56:33,190 --> 02:56:32,000
yeah

4306
02:56:35,910 --> 02:56:33,200
you know you're right

4307
02:56:38,070 --> 02:56:35,920
you're right about that and uh over at

4308
02:56:39,510 --> 02:56:38,080
fort bend harrison i remember

4309
02:56:42,070 --> 02:56:39,520
specifically

4310
02:56:44,150 --> 02:56:42,080
the finance center at fort bend harrison

4311
02:56:46,469 --> 02:56:44,160
that cuts all of the checks for all of

4312
02:56:49,269 --> 02:56:46,479
the military every bench every paycheck

4313
02:56:50,230 --> 02:56:49,279
comes out of there right and it's a huge

4314
02:56:52,150 --> 02:56:50,240
building

4315
02:56:54,309 --> 02:56:52,160
when i was a kid

4316
02:56:56,870 --> 02:56:54,319
i walked in and out of there like it was

4317
02:56:59,349 --> 02:56:56,880
nothing and it's probably the size of

4318
02:57:01,670 --> 02:56:59,359
the pentagon it's huge

4319
02:57:04,070 --> 02:57:01,680
golf carts you know the whole thing the

4320
02:57:06,710 --> 02:57:04,080
white hallways with the stripes and

4321
02:57:08,710 --> 02:57:06,720
this ginormous building but i walked in

4322
02:57:11,510 --> 02:57:08,720
and out of there all the time

4323
02:57:13,190 --> 02:57:11,520
all the time i never i never got stopped

4324
02:57:15,750 --> 02:57:13,200
listen david i gotta get out of here i

4325
02:57:18,389 --> 02:57:15,760
gotta roll credits uh thank you for

4326
02:57:20,790 --> 02:57:18,399
for all of that tonight and uh no

4327
02:57:23,349 --> 02:57:20,800
problem and we'll take it uh uh we'll

4328
02:57:25,269 --> 02:57:23,359
take it further on on another show i'd

4329
02:57:26,469 --> 02:57:25,279
like to talk to you uh more about all of

4330
02:57:28,550 --> 02:57:26,479
this

4331
02:57:30,469 --> 02:57:28,560
will do i listen to you every night

4332
02:57:31,750 --> 02:57:30,479
thank you so much again thank you so

4333
02:57:32,870 --> 02:57:31,760
much david

4334
02:57:34,790 --> 02:57:32,880
you got it

4335
02:57:37,830 --> 02:57:34,800
and uh to have a phone call like that

4336
02:57:41,190 --> 02:57:37,840
somebody that was at the pentagon

4337
02:57:43,510 --> 02:57:41,200
on uh september 11th uh 2001 to call

4338
02:57:44,630 --> 02:57:43,520
into the show and and talk about

4339
02:57:48,870 --> 02:57:44,640
uh

4340
02:57:50,710 --> 02:57:48,880
at that very moment

4341
02:57:52,870 --> 02:57:50,720
uh that's what this show was all about i

4342
02:57:55,190 --> 02:57:52,880
want to thank david for uh for having

4343
02:57:56,230 --> 02:57:55,200
the courage to call in tonight and there

4344
02:58:00,870 --> 02:57:56,240
you go

4345
02:58:01,990 --> 02:58:00,880
and that wraps our a very special 9 11

4346
02:58:04,230 --> 02:58:02,000
september

4347
02:58:05,990 --> 02:58:04,240
11th special event with adjusting to

4348
02:58:09,030 --> 02:58:06,000
champs

4349
02:58:10,630 --> 02:58:09,040
again dedicating this show

4350
02:58:12,550 --> 02:58:10,640
to jim mars

4351
02:58:14,469 --> 02:58:12,560
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4352
02:58:16,230 --> 02:58:14,479
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4353
02:58:19,269 --> 02:58:16,240
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4354
02:58:21,670 --> 02:58:19,279
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4355
02:58:23,910 --> 02:58:21,680
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4356
02:58:26,469 --> 02:58:23,920
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4357
02:58:28,469 --> 02:58:26,479
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4358
02:58:30,150 --> 02:58:28,479
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4359
02:58:30,830 --> 02:58:30,160
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4360
02:58:33,590 --> 02:58:30,840
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4361
02:58:35,830 --> 02:58:33,600
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4362
02:58:37,269 --> 02:58:35,840
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02:58:41,349 --> 02:58:39,040
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4365
02:58:43,269 --> 02:58:41,359
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4368
02:58:48,630 --> 02:58:47,600
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4369
02:58:51,030 --> 02:58:48,640
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4370
02:58:53,750 --> 02:58:51,040
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4371
02:58:54,950 --> 02:58:53,760
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4372
02:58:58,469 --> 02:58:54,960
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4373
02:58:59,349 --> 02:58:58,479
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4374
02:59:03,510 --> 02:58:59,359
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4375
02:59:05,990 --> 02:59:03,520
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4376
02:59:16,230 --> 02:59:06,000
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